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Via Ferrata Spodnji Plot

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mala paklenica11. 09. 2015 13:30:58
And descent? Via the educational trail or ?
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Janez Seliškar11. 09. 2015 13:38:00
Usually we descend as it says on the info leaflet: Along the earmarked trail from the top of Spodnji Plot in NW direction ....
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Optimist00713. 09. 2015 18:41:19
Regarding the via ferrata at Zelenica, I found the most info on the website of Planinsko društvo Tržič - GUC Zelenice - mountaineering educational center - via ferrata Spodnji plot-Zelenica.

Officially, the via ferrata will open on 19. 9. 2015, when there will be a day of Tržič mountaineers at Zelenica.

Action, and safe step!mežikanje
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JORDAN13. 09. 2015 18:43:32
Descent is along the normal approach path which is also described under the list of mountains. We tried the via ferrata yesterday, but the left easier variant. Short and sweet. The initial common D makes the selection which is right and the entry to E is very steep and already there everyone knows where they belong. On the via ferrata there are quite a few steps on the ground which can be quite a problem when wet.
initial warm-up part and above the visible part of the left E ferrata1
before entering the D pillar2
exit from the D3
on the left easier variant4
right E5
some soil on the feet6
right E7
exit chimney8
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SunBurned21. 09. 2015 19:39:47
Today I also tried this via ferrata myself. Supported by numerous successfully climbed high mountain routes in recent years (Kopiščar, Via Italiana, Vrbanke etc., all without problems and with pleasure) I went up quite optimistic and confident.
Still, I chose the easier path, because I knew I couldn't haul myself up a 90-degree slope on the rope.

Well, I didn't even get to the "easier" path. On the lower, common part there is an 8-meter D difficulty section. The first two meters I somehow climbed up with effort, then I didn't know where to step or hold anymore and, so as not to ruin a nice day for myself or god forbid for some rescue service, I nicely climbed back down and went to Zelenica to enjoy the sun a bit more.
I think this requires quite a bit of arm strength, which isn't exactly my area, because of all muscles I most like to take care of the belly "muscle" :-D

I say "if you like it, someone will choose it", but for me it's just not.

Interestingly, Spodnji Plot has given me wind twice already, namely last year when I tackled the ridge of Ljubeljščica from the old hut at Ljubelj, I even got lost...
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ločanka21. 09. 2015 20:15:12
SunBurned, you said so openly and really wittily about this your attempt, that I really laughed. Usually people don't say that something didn't work out for them. But it happens to all of us!
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Viper21. 09. 2015 20:16:51
Definitely SunBurned for this via ferrata, especially for the right harder via ferrata you really need quite a bit of strength in your arms to get through all the E's. I climbed both alone on Saturday and have to say the left via ferrata is quite a bit easier, but still you need some arm strength for the left one too, without it you won't make it here.
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SunBurned21. 09. 2015 20:29:07
@ločanka: Yeah, thanks, no. Otherwise every hiker must have all sorts of stories in stockvelik nasmeh

@viper: The B and C sections of the left path are probably still manageable, only that D got me right away.
The difficulty of the right path is already visible from the pictures; straight vertical and nowhere to step eek Hats off to everyone who can do it!
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lino21. 09. 2015 20:34:36
I went to check out this via ferrata and already from below realized it won't end well for me here. Decided for an honorable retreat and was just a spectator and admirer of the brave below.
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Viper21. 09. 2015 20:38:37
I'd say yes, that initial D is really the hardest somehow. The difficulty of the right via ferrata is such, very little flat to stand in the steepest parts, where you stand only on friction and feel your shoes slipping. It's a via ferrata where you can't rest much in between. But you have to get over the steep part as quick as possible and climb really fast to get over it sooner, otherwise your arms can really hurt. nasmeh
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dprapr21. 09. 2015 21:21:40
Those who can't climb the rope in the gym to the ceiling and back should avoid the big E. That's how simple it is.
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Parkeljc24. 09. 2015 00:40:43
It will hold as the previous wrote. If you cheat a bit with the via ferrata set, it's much easier. True, the via ferrata is short, but at the same time sweet .. mežikanje. To Zelenica we warm up just right. The right variant is best and easiest if we climb it without extra luggage. That initial D fades soon after entering the right variant, which hardly eases up to the top.
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ms_primoz24. 09. 2015 07:14:58
And then, is this via ferrata harder than Cjajnik?
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Parkeljc24. 09. 2015 08:57:02
Yes mežikanje
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natasa si24. 09. 2015 09:13:10
I also say it's harder, even harder than Fallbach. Actually they can't be compared at all. This sports via ferrata is a step forward for us.
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Lunca24. 09. 2015 09:44:01
On the left it's really like that, once you climb over that initial D the rest goes... And as Parkeljc wrote, the via ferrata set really comes in handy... otherwise you hug the holds and bruises are inevitable mežikanje Praise to the Tržič folks for this via ferrata, at least for the left part I had the feeling it's really nicely set... About the right variant maybe next time, after training push-ups and regular enjoyment of žganci nasmeh And hats off to those who climb it... Maybe Parkeljc could write something more about the last clipping under the top... It hasn't happened yet that he showed me the middle finger, but when I photographed him in the safe spot under the cross, he did mežikanje
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dprapr24. 09. 2015 10:45:19
Push-ups won't help, pull-ups on the bar will though! Žganci in all cases.nasmeh
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ms_primoz24. 09. 2015 11:21:55
first the head. the rest will come nasmeh
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janezs7327. 09. 2015 19:10:36
Curiosity wouldn't let me rest and I went to test this outdoor fitness. I'm dedicating the following info to those who love such sports via ferratas or want to try them, as well as to those who hike the hills on so-called protected paths.
In my opinion, the main issue is that these are completely different "sports", even though both include the term "protected path" in the name. This one at Zelenica stands out completely from the SLO selection of protected paths and via ferratas (however many there are).
First, climbing shoes (!) are necessary for this via ferrata. Note this especially if you're used to walking our classic protected paths. Even with climbing shoes, which make some passages much easier, they still won't pull you up at the hardest spots, where most of the weight in via ferratas is on the arms. Interestingly, the moves are also different from sport climbing. At times, it felt like I had similar sensations (in my arms) when climbing sport routes graded between 5b and 6a (though of course the technique can't be compared, no mistake). Unfortunately, experience from via ferratas doesn't help much on protected paths. There it's mainly about footwork feel, balance transfer, endurance, checking crumbly/broken footholds and handholds, etc.

For those not used to via ferratas, some tips. Might help someone. Of course, not trying to be smart nasmeh just well-meaning:
Before vertical sections, use a lanyard or any rigid short tether with cable, rest on it and think about where to step and especially (!), how to clip at the first next bolt above the hard part. If the hard part is vertically upward, release the lanyard and clip it above the next bolt before unclipping from the safety cable. If the hard part is diagonal (e.g. on the last belly or at traverses in the middle section) and you're running out of arm strength, climb it by pushing off perpendicularly sideways from the cable with your feet - this will tension the lanyard and free your hands after each move. During such moves, push the lanyard up with the lower hand, move the foot, turn body toward the cable and push off, tensioning the lanyard and holding it at the next point. If it's a horizontal traverse, hang on the lanyard and cross (meanwhile moving the lanyard forward with the rear hand). As I said, such via ferratas are like fitness, technique is needed.. no need to do everything "by force" nasmeh

Otherwise, the via ferrata is really well made. Grades are quite realistic. I have just one concern: the starting part (D grade) is easier than it looks, maybe not selective enough!
For me personally, the middle belly above the traverse was the most mentally draining.. I don't even know why - maybe because I rested in the niche on the right and lost the hanging feel - that belly is really exposed... I'll check next time what's the issue

right after the initial E in the right variant, one of my safety leashes got stuck under the nut (because I moved too fast), which I barely fixed - that always drains a lot of energy... so it's worth thinking well how to clip

if you're not skilled, don't go there without extra protection.. anchors are prepared everywhere so people can climb as safely as possible!
view from below1
first harder part (D).. in reality it is not that hard.. but nevertheless many people turn back below it2
exit from the first difficult part3
start of vertical part (E) in right (harder) variant.. before proceeding, think where to step and how to move across4
middle of the slab (lanyard also useful for photography).. do not recommend slabs without climbing shoes5
passage left from slab, again slightly harder part (D), here I use pushing technique (reminiscent of crack climbing technique)6
traverse to the right.. climbing shoes and lanyard make this part really easy (easier than the rest) :)7
same part from above - here the steepness is still quite significant8
in my opinion the key part of the route - body position here quite tilted outward9
view of the left variant10
exit from the hardest part (here probably everyone catches their breath)11
with the lifeline this traverse is easy12
at the end another gem - need to go over this belly13
this is how the belly looks from above (pure E), again I used stemming technique, this time to the other side than before (body to the left)14
also the exit15
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urbancek27. 09. 2015 20:04:40
Well, that initial D isn't really easy...zavijanje z očmi In my view the grade is realistic. Given that there's also a left, easier variant, I don't know why it should be even more selective for later sections that are substantially easier?eek Whoever goes for E must know what it means and have the appropriate experience. Regards!
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