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| velkavrh28. 09. 2015 06:33:58 |
janezs73, thanks for such instructive tips. In spring I watched them building it. I'll try to climb at least the easier left variant. I know I'm simply too weak in arms - tested on the Czech via ferrata. Winter arm strength training needed.
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| sla28. 09. 2015 07:34:59 |
The left variant is a walk. The only issue is that the rock is quite crumbly in places and a hold can break off. Didn't do the right variant because of injured shoulder and knee...
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| boy362. 10. 2015 12:47:38 |
Via ferrata surely the hardest here. But as others wrote, with strategy and some resting it can be "tamed". Recommend climbing shoes or at least low approach shoes (Wildfire, Five Ten Camp...) with good rubber!
Video:Via Ferrata Spodnji Plot
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| boy362. 10. 2015 20:05:30 |
Primož, caver is used to water cooling of palms 
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| sport-bi5. 10. 2015 14:12:42 |
Curiosity tempted me and I went to see what it looks like, during the circular path Draga - Zelenica - Roblekov dom - Draga. The via ferrata is quite short, but an interesting addition to Zelenica. For the first try I chose the left (easier) route, as the rock in the right (harder) direction felt very smooth and without major holds to tackle it in hiking boots. Next time for the harder route I'll bring climbing shoes for better feel. The easier variant is quite straightforward in the upper part.
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| traceour5. 10. 2015 18:17:57 |
The via ferrata can be normally climbed with a bit of experience in La Sportiva Adidas shoes, for the less experienced highly recommended climbing shoes.. But that's how it is, those who venture into E must know what awaits them :-D
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| dprapr6. 10. 2015 06:50:29 |
I think climbing shoes won't be enough. Some bag of magnesia will be needed too.
On equipped paths (via ferratas included) and climbing to IV. grade normal hiking boots are sufficient. Or I don't understand anything anymore. EMŠO is to blame...
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| Jovan Cukut6. 10. 2015 07:39:41 |
''Via ferrata like via ferrata ...'', I've quoted this long-written comment many times. In dry rock arm strength and endurance are most important. Of course normal hiking boots with good Vibram sole are good enough for any via ferrata. Climbing shoes and magnesia belong elsewhere, not in via ferratas. That's my personal opinion.
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| pikica16. 10. 2015 09:17:25 |
@dprapr when I showed up when picasso was pushing easier off-trail you had a whole lot to say. Among other things that everyone should hike mountains as they like. If so, why get involved in climbing shoes, let them go through as easier for them. Just safely through and not a burden to others.
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| lizika6. 10. 2015 09:27:09 |
I think climbing shoes and magnesium won't suffice 
That before ascent on this hard one need to listen to MI2 first:
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Come with me to hot springs,
we'll be pretty we'll be fit.
I'll get strong arms,
you a bit smaller butt.
 
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| dprapr6. 10. 2015 11:24:03 |
Exactly so, pikica1, as one likes. I completely agree.
If someone wants on ferrata with climbing shoes let him go if easier for him.
But some now think they must have climbing shoes to manage ferrata. That's completely different. Someone misled them the wrong way. Maybe "traders" also on this side advertise their articles.
Climbing shoes last thing that helps successful ascent on ferrata. Need to train a bit before...
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| boy366. 10. 2015 11:49:30 |
Add my opinion. That in ferratas where pegs big steps where rock rugged (Cjajnik,Zelezna Kapla...), there climbing shoes don't help much even if E or F. First time hear that traders advertise climbing shoes for use in ferratas! This ferrata first here where no such aids this ferrata has couple smooth vertical limestone slabs with very small steps thumb size and here they can be big help of course if not put all work on arms!
That's of course my opinion everyone has right to decide himself how equipped goes to ferratas. Mainly let it be safe!
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| SamoK6. 10. 2015 12:40:18 |
These fitness-feratas have approximately as much connection with mountaineering as aquarium tunnels (https://www.list.co.uk/article/18750-site-specifics-deep-sea-world/) with diving.
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| boy366. 10. 2015 13:13:02 |
SamoK ... if you can use the day still somehow differently, from there you have nice mountaineering routes, and also to Zelenica you need to walk. Ferrata you can use only as an intermediate link! And if in this case you are on top of Sp. Plota, at least I think that you are in hills or mountains. Even indoor sport climbing when you climb warm and dry, you could call it that, but you can successfully use the knowledge then in rock!
Anyway some overload themselves too much with all around you! Let people do what they want, as they don't bother or burden you with it!"
If I don't have a cow let the neighbor's die too!" - our national sport.
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| SamoK6. 10. 2015 13:20:25 |
Hey, I don't care at all where and how someone climbs. What bothers me is talking about one and the other in the same breath, as if there's any relatedness. There isn't! In classic alpinism, one of the beauties, one of the pleasures is searching for natural features in the rock, regardless of difficulty level. Every alpinist knows there's nothing better than the feeling that the mountain whispers to you where it's best to go. Fitness-feratas are routed forcibly, even through muddy, gravelly terrain, wherever. Basically it's nothing but a jungle gym where the fitness-feratnik hangs like a monkey. I repeat: it has nothing to do with mountaineering!
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| GregorC6. 10. 2015 14:41:46 |
Look Samo, you just don't like them, but that doesn't mean you have to insult those who use them (fitness-feratnik hangs like a monkey) or disparage these feratas. They are just a welcome addition, regardless of where they are, whether in a valley or in the mountains. And this one at Zelenica can nicely spice up a mountain tour, so I think in the end it does have to do with mountaineering, if nothing else because of the location.
A little less intolerance towards all visitors who move in the mountains this way or that, and it will be nicer for everyone. Also on this forum.
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| SamoK6. 10. 2015 14:51:31 |
OK, GregorC, I was a bit insulting and I apologize for that. But the problem remains that tips for fitness-feratas appear here that inappropriately use the logic of classic alpinism. Yeah, that bothers me. And if I look a bit broader, I think it's extremely dangerous for someone without experience in classic walls to think that climbing feratas will gain them anything for entering the real mountains. That's misleading and potentially very dangerous. So it would be better not to mix the two at all. On this forum it's like it's all one form of mountaineering. It's not, period!
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| janezs736. 10. 2015 17:11:15 |
Drago, Bojan, Samo and Gregor,
I hope I didn't spark such a heated debate about climbing shoes and (un)necessary tips for feratas...
the purpose of my post was mainly to make those who are not aware of certain forms of sporting activity in the mountains realize that with experiences from feratas you can't get far on other paths in the mountains.. by the way I mentioned a few tips on how it was easier for me to get over this ferata... once again I emphasize, if it's useful to someone, everyone should choose for themselves whether the tip is useful
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