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Višarje and Kamniti Hunter

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rozka25. 07. 2011 19:09:15
nasmeh
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pohodnica535. 09. 2011 13:05:57
Beautiful sunny Saturday, this time wonderful experience on St. Višarje and visit to Stone Hunter and my new »via ferrata« experience, which steels me for more such encounters; I admit, the ascent isn't sooo easy via the second gully, so on top I first squatted-acclimatized to the height to even start admiring the views from "up there"eek; otherwise nice path, only at the start the »cable« is already quite damaged (torn), so if the summit is as crowded as today, it won't last long; twice rattled above heads with rolling scree, sadly most visitors without helmets; crowd on top quite big, hard to push to the »bell«, views though ......fairy-talenasmeh! Best
arrival at Sv. Višarje1
Sv. Višarje fairy-tale like even in this season2
beautiful views in all directions3
views, beautiful and clear4
in observing the Stone Hunter5
Kamniti lovec closer6
along the path bend Mangart7
view down towards the pasture8
path towards KL9
the slightly steeper section begins10
entry into the climbing section - scree11
steeper final part before the exit12
at the summit13
neighbouring little mound with Mangart in background14
Mangart summit up close15
Beautiful Montaž with a cap of mist16
Mangart, Jalovec.... beauties for the soul and eye....17
Višarska fairy tale18
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tisa5. 09. 2011 13:33:44
Pohodnica53, beautiful pictures and I don't doubt you had a wonderful day despite the big crowd and difficult ascent. Haven't been to St. Višarje yet, but this is like a magnet calling for realization. Wish you more enjoyments in the mountains and safe steps. Good luck.
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mukica5. 09. 2011 13:53:48
Really super pics and believe me live unique experience... Pulls me toomežikanje
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pohodnica535. 09. 2011 14:31:40
@tisa and @mukica - thanks to bothnasmeh; really it was one of my best mountain experiences, day maximally fulfilled, I could say in every minute, so that saying: "a lost minute doesn't return", really doesn't apply this time; so tisa, since you haven't been, don't delay, hurry, it's really very nice; mukica, let it pull you well "up", although I see you were already very diligent and successful in the mountains this year; best to both and safe in, also for you, dear mountains;nasmehmežikanje
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pohodnica536. 09. 2011 09:10:56
Please for info; opposite St. Višarje is beautiful green hill (pic), wondering which it is; maybe Ojstrnik? Thanks for helpnasmeh; best
or is that Ojstrnik1
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Tadej6. 09. 2011 09:38:52
@pohodnica53 The hill you're asking about is indeed Ojstrnik.
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pohodnica536. 09. 2011 11:40:42
@tadej thanks for the reply and best regards
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IgorZlodej4. 12. 2011 18:58:23
I started in Mrzla voda (Riofreddo) about 200 m from the bridge towards Trbiž where I parked, then left up the forest road. When it ends, a nice path continues, leading past the place with "crosses", crosses the gully, and on the other side leads to Višarska planina. The path can be nicely followed, only a few thinner fallen trees just below the planina across the path. Since Beraški križ and Lovec were in fog, and on Višarje everything was closed too, it didn't pull me up there. Just before the planina I turned left onto the path leading to Prašnik saddle. Years ago I walked here already, but in the opposite direction. The path was nicely marked many years ago, still nicely traceable. Here and there is a fallen tree that doesn't cause trouble, more problematic are the gullies where everything is fallen, especially the penultimate one is almost impassable. I solved the problem by descending down one gully about 50 m, then climbing back up the other (easy II). Then followed another 20 minutes and I reached the junction, up Kamniti lovec, down Prašnik saddle. Of course I went down. From Prašnik saddle leads to the head of Mrzla voda valley a road that goes far around, so this time I chose the direct variant down to Mrzla voda valley, first forest track, when it ends I went directly down through the forest, in between caught some kind of little path and lost it too, but still I hit it pretty well and quickly reached the valley, followed another 45 minutes of walking to Mrzla voda village, where I arrived in the dark. Otherwise a very nice circular path, but I can't recommend it due to the fallen gullies, or the path should be closed until it is renovated, I think anyway it is not managed by C.A.I.
nice forest path from Mrzla voda up to Višarska planina1
at the crosses2
some fallen trees on the path3
the ski slope below Florjanka is still deserted4
before Višarska planina I turn left for the Prašnik saddle5
the weather was not that bad at all6
far below is the village Mrzla voda7
totally devastated gully8
End of the Mrzla voda valley9
Malga Lussari - path should be closed10
Leaving Prašnik saddle in an unusual direction.11
This path through the valley always enchants me.12
I return to the starting point in the dark.13
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facko5. 12. 2011 09:51:08
Nice places.
I also went there twice; first as "guided" and didn't look around much, second as "guide" and was sure the path was right only when we passed the crosses.
Parking along the valley path left at the spring, then back and above houses uphill on cart track. Shame it's not marked a bit better maybe ...
Would be nicer if could make circular path - ascent via Mrzla voda valley to Prašnik saddle, from there (how?) to Lovec and then along described path to start.

LP
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IgorZlodej5. 12. 2011 14:41:39
From Prašnik saddle leads marked path to Lovec along SW slopes, from it first branches right to Višarska planina, a bit higher left branches path to Višarje, for those who don't want to the very summit. Otherwise the path higher is nicely panoramic, a bit annoying only just below summit where crumbly in places, but wire rope helps. From summit descent through cirque V klobuku to Višarje, so nice circular tour possible, but warn that by no means short and it's full-day tour.
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2061alessio5. 12. 2011 16:48:51
hi Igor, thanks for info on that path before planina to saddle Prašnik/Prasnig, same as you I did it years ago in opposite direction and idea came from known member in our PD that in 2012 we could mark it with red dots (so not like CAI path because that track was recently arranged by State Forestry) already from mrzla voda because would be nice unofficial connection with other paths in this end, exactly that part with gullies would be problem because by law we can't install wire rope, we'll see what can be done; nice regards.
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DarjaZaplotnik21. 01. 2012 22:23:41
Despite the modest snow cover, skiing from below Kamniti Lovec today offered plenty of beautiful turns on untouched white. Right from the top of this exceptional viewpoint of Western Julijci skiing wasn't possible, so could enjoy solitude and silence, with views that thrill heart and eye.nasmeh
Descent we did through cirque V Klobuku and then further to the little road leading back up to Višarje. After almost obligatory stop in one of the nice huts on Višarje (really ultra friendly + delight the tummy nasmeh), followed late afternoon zigzagging on ski slope back to start.
It was great, very! nasmeh
snapshot1
end of the pilgrimage path...2
... and further towards the Hunter3
views around4
switchbacks5
hehe, shopping on skis; Višarje6
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Matjaz_6512. 03. 2012 19:39:53
path start without snow ... so need to carry skis good half hour zavijanje z očmi
also to ca. 2/3 path to višarska planina path very icy ... so caution needed mežikanje
higher up enough snow ... in shady spots not yet properly settled cool
by the way along path I bag also gully to beraški križ mežikanje
after descent from kamniti lovec drop from klobuk through forest to road and along it to višarje nasmeh

pics mežikanje
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VanSims18. 06. 2012 16:26:14
Morning, I drive towards Mojstrana, where I park, pull the bike and backpack from the car and head along the bike path towards Italy. In Kranjska Gora, I stop at the shop to get some food and especially water, in Trbiž also for ice cream. After a few more km ride on the nicely arranged path, I arrive at the lower cable car station to Višarje.

Futile search for bike parking, so as usual leave it in the forest locked to a tree. Since the time is almost 12, I commit mountaineering blasphemy and take the cable car (one way 10 EUR) to Višarje. Since the description on hribi.net for Kamniti Lovec is a bit awkward (road goes left, not right), I ask for the path. This time (see my note at Svačica and Celovška koča), I speak Slovenian. And what do I gain? I have to wait a couple of minutes for the lady to call another lady who speaks Slovenian well! velik nasmeh

I set off then and when I reach the chapel (last station of the way of the cross on the pilgrimage path), I continue into the forest. I meet lots of Slovenians, quite a few Austrians and few Italians. While climbing the gullies just before the summit, I meet a group descending terrain admittedly very crumbly, carelessly triggering rocks onto the lower path. eek No, not rude Slovenians or careless Italians but "cultured" Austrians. jezik mežikanje

At the summit, I meet a group of Austrians who came up the path from Prašnik saddle. Topographically obviously not well versed (except one correcting them) as they mistook Hochalmco for Grossglockner, Viš baptized as Mangart! velik nasmeh Anyway, the view on really nice weather was magnificent! Since I planned a circular via Prašnik, I ask the versed one how the path is. He asks if I have 'Kletersteigset' and without it advises against the path to Prašnik as 'steil' and 'bruchig'. So I abandon the circular.

After the Austrians leave, I enjoy the view a bit more and two Slovenians arrive at the summit with whom I get into a long chat about this and that. A little after they leave, I descend myself. Down the crumbly gullies it's really a bit annoying but still possible to descend nicely without triggering rocks! Then I descend back to the chapel and go to see Višarje.

Besides, they speak Slovenian there; all signs besides Italian and German are also in Slovenian. In the little church, surprised, I hear Slovenian singing from the speakers. Really, totally different than the pass under Grossglockner where despite meeting many Slovenians, not one Slovenian sign (but e.g. in Dutch zavijanje z očmi)

On Višarje, I meet again the Slovenians with whom I chatted on the summit, then descend via the pilgrimage path over Višarska planina. The path is steep and a bit awkward for descent, brings almost directly to the lower cable car station (up direction: from lower station a bit left towards Trbiž, past parking, at junction right, short asphalt and few houses into forest where signpost too).

With the bike, I ride back and stop again in Trbiž for ice cream (can't resist Italian cool) and in Rateče at Mojmir for beer. There some Italians brought a puppy constantly jumping on the waitress. velik nasmeh On the way back, some Slovenian family sits in the middle of the bike path. In the middle child - kid not guilty if has crazy parents and if it sucked... mrk pogled For parents I don't care nasmeh but not for the innocent cyclist! Do that on the Italian side, they destroy you! velik nasmeh

Also otherwise don't think right that along the path allowed for landowners (weekenders) to drive cars which is unparalleled in Europe. To make irony bigger, the sign warns cyclists before cars instead of the opposite since cars actually drive where normally shouldn't and they should watch cyclists!
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Majdag15. 09. 2012 18:11:12

...To Stražar on Višarje via pilgrimage path. Interesting, quite steep path. Snow only on scree, a bit before the summit, probably cleared today. On Višarje, a crowd, on return to the valley we met many more people who were just ascendingnasmeh
- Reward for diligent pilgrims1
- Traffic light for pedestrians2
- Even on the return it was in the same place - chamois3
- A few years ago there weren't so many chains4
- Ira also reached the top5
- Višarje and construction site on the right6
- Viš, V. Nabojs and mighty Montaž7
- Lots of people8
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gorski svizec15. 09. 2012 19:01:06
Since I want to do the circular path to Kamniti Lovec, I'm interested what that other, more demanding path is like or if it's a ferrata. Is a safety kit needed and is the path maintained and marked? Can it be compared to some very demanding path in SLO? Thanks for the answer.
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IgorZlodej15. 09. 2012 19:09:07
I've heard they already leveled the terrain from Višarje to Višarska planina, where there will be a connecting ski slope with Florjanka. Shame, I think this intervention will deter quite a few ski tourers.
GS, Kamniti lovec can be circled, don't know which path interests you, maybe that one on the west side to Prašnik saddle, nowhere ferrata of course.
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gorski svizec15. 09. 2012 19:25:16
According to the map, two paths lead to the summit. According to VanSims' description above, whom an Austrian told that the path from Prašnik saddle goes to Klettersteig. So I'm interested in how it really is? On hribi.net only one path is described.
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IgorZlodej15. 09. 2012 20:06:34
The path to Prašnik saddle is secured only just below the summit with a cable, otherwise it's an ordinary trail, but above Prašnik saddle there's a connecting transverse path back to Višarje, and of course the other one through the fallen screes that leads to Višarska planina and is also described a page or two back from my side.
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