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Where to go with a dog?

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VanSims23. 07. 2011 18:39:50
JTrogar: beautiful dog!!! I like beagles, that one is some retriever, right?

The other day a husky almost jumped into my lap during snack on Planina Koren because it smelled chocolate biscuits. nasmeh And the owner quickly pulled it to her. And everything was fine. And friendly too, no barking or growling. And towards Kriška planina I met another loose dog that wanted to charge me but the owner nicely put it aside so I passed. And everything was fine too.

Why can some? There are good and bad dogs. Just like people.

Ah, the dog isn't guilty, the owner is bad. If a person defends against another person is that wrong?
Not guilty that parents messed up his upbringing. zmeden velik nasmeh
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JTrogar23. 07. 2011 19:06:01
I completely agree with you.velik nasmeh
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slavi090223. 07. 2011 19:08:26
JTrogar......you have a beautiful dog, I don't know much about breeds, but write what breeds they are.....thanks
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JTrogar23. 07. 2011 19:49:07
The smaller Thira is a beagle, the bigger Ajka a golden retriever. They have very different characters and are great friends. Both love to roam the hills with me. When I can't take them on unsuitable hikes for them they whimper so sweetly that I'd rather stay home myself.
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janna23. 07. 2011 19:53:42
Given I have two very bad experiences with dog encounters (dogs sense from afar anyway that I'm afraid of them mežikanje), I really had to chime in this debate. And I agree with VanSims almost entirely. Dogs are for leashes. Behavior responsibility is absolutely the owner's.
Probably due to bad experience, I don't want the dog even getting too close to me.
There are owners actually offended if I don't at least "address" the dog. Worst when dog circles me, clearly I'm afraid, owner says: it won't do anything eek
Most dogs or owners know or understand nature behavior, but exceptions still exist mrk pogled
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penzionist23. 07. 2011 22:22:15
Many years ago some rowdy youths attacked us in the Styrian center and we barely escaped with whole skin. Since then I have a subconscious discomfort when hearing Styrian. Should I expect Styrians chained around the world because I had such an experience?

I have somehow suppressed my previously described trauma and try to act normal outside. I have a large scary-looking dog (teeth visible) and we roam gladly. When it meets a person, it stops, waits for me, then I leash it and we pass nicely.

If many hikers, it is leashed; otherwise I let it sniff and jump at proper distance.

Probably all a bit right our way. Rude dog owners cause bad mood among others and they demand silly rules. Interestingly all owners say - my doesn't bite. And most anti-fourlegs people claim animal lovers...

So far only good experiences with my beast and same with met people via described. Hope it stays and not default criminal just because my dog likes to sniff.
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heinz24. 07. 2011 10:28:24
Once I met a wolf, I thought: where's its owner with the leash? Just loose flying around..zavijanje z očmi
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VanSims24. 07. 2011 13:38:08
@pensioner

I can speed along the road and break the rules with my terrible car. Well, if the traffic frequency is higher, then I respect them, otherwise I allow myself the pleasure... But can we be surprised by the chaos on the road, numerous deaths...

YOU know your dog won't hurt anyone (though you never know for sure with a dog), WE don't know that and we're scared of it.

Ok, then I'll dress up in the costume and mask of that psycho from Scream and run around with a raised knife as if I wanted to stab someone. ME, I already know I won't do anything to anyone. velik nasmeh
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ugn24. 07. 2011 14:14:50
Van sims, comparison is spot on. When an unknown unleashed dog rushes under my feet and starts sniffing my balls, I feel the same as if a guy with a butcher knife and masked face and weird behavior was charging at me. And dog owners obviously don't want to understand this at all, because it's their pet (which probably really won't do anything, but I can't know that).
I personally don't understand dog owners at all, why do you do this, what do you get out of dragging dogs into the mountains... but it doesn't concern me, it's not my business, everyone can do what they want... as long as it doesn't harm others. And yes, by scaring me with your dog, you are harming me. And that's really not right, at best it's very inconsiderate...
Another comparison: in police powers, the criteria for using a service dog without a muzzle are the same as for using firearms - so if you're threatening me with an unleashed dog without a muzzle, it's the same as aiming a gun at me... you might know you won't shoot, but for me it's definitely not pleasant...

I'm sure at least 80% of trail users think similarly, but in such topics dog owners speak up more often because the topic interests them more...
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penzionist24. 07. 2011 14:48:17
Silly comparisons. The psycho doesn't even need to dress up as a psycho to look like one. The dog doesn't sniff balls, but is confused because it should sniff them, but there are none. And if you could read, you might have even read in the first go "When it meets a person, it stops and waits for me, then I grab or leash it and we nicely go past each other." , but let's leave that for another time. I'm glad that I apparently meet mostly those 20% of forest path users. And that's exactly what I'm going to do now - the rain has stopped, so my terrible mutt and I are going out for about 2 hours. I'm not afraid that in such soggy terrain I'll meet those for whom the peak of nature experience is the grip of a sterile eco tetrapak
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prepolc8024. 07. 2011 14:54:23
We runners are a special story, from Golovec and Rožnik to easier mountain trails. When you meet an unleashed dog, your pace, proper breathing frequency and consequently training goes to hell. But to not be egoist, I'd ask dog owners, what do they think, how do marmots, chamois, roe deer and similar wildlife feel when a dog (which is NOT IN NATURAL ENVIRONMENT there) enters their territory?
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VanSims24. 07. 2011 15:11:40
pensioner: ok we already understood from your first post that you belong to those 5-10% of owners we're talking about.

ugn asks why they do it?

Why do some speed on the road past all rules? Why do some ride on the bike path in the wrong direction and you have to dodge them when meeting and then they yell at you? Why do some beat their families at home? Why are some psychotic bosses (to be clear, not those who just demand work and results from subordinates)?

The psychological pattern is the same: vent everyday life's annoyances, frustrations, anxieties... on someone, because it's easier than doing it positively like with recreation, mountaineering, hobby,... also mentally easier for many.

In some, all these mental troubles that accumulate from childhood reach a level where they become trolls, idiots, raving or even Behring Breivik.
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TejaB24. 07. 2011 17:31:59
VanSims, your comparisons are heavily exaggerated, probably with provocative intent.zavijanje z očmi In my opinion, with a little patience in the mountains there's enough space for everyone - hikers and dogs, runners and cyclists.jezikvelik nasmeh
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Hribovc8824. 07. 2011 21:15:35
Esti, won't you join the debate at allvelik nasmehnasmeh

Otherwise I also have some respect for dogs, they are beasts in my view, after all many years ago they were wolves, otherwise let them live, but leave me alone, let these beasts be calm, I say, it's furry behind the ears, you never knowzmedeneekzavijanje z očmi

Otherwise animals don't bother me, so it doesn't look like I'm some zoophobenasmeh, but at home I don't have or wouldn't have any pet, well maybe cows and similar barn animals, and chickens aren't bad either, since I have a big wish to live on some high mountain farm somedayvelik nasmehmežikanje, but to now pamper with some salon dogs and hamsters and parrots and I don't know what else people pamper, that's no chance, that's just that style, somehow it shows, then we see horrific scenes on TV when a dog or some other beast has a grown-in chainmrk pogled, when I see something like that I get such rage that's not to tell, I'd put that chained owner on a chain so he sees. I think, if you're capable of caring for an animal, then have it, I personally admit animals as such don't bother me, but I wouldn't have them, except cows and chickens on the farm, that's a whole different thing. Sadly people think only of themselves more and more or want to show off to others e.g. having some expensive dog with pedigree, somehow it shows, but in reality they're not capable of caring for their pets, let alone themselves, and I know many such cases where home pets fare better than the owners themselves, that's irony, and they buy strawberries for the dog and I don't know what else, themselves have nothing to eat. Oh where have we come tomrk pogledjezeneekzavijanje z očmi
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ogo24. 07. 2011 21:44:22
I don't know, why is no one afraid of mine?mežikanje
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Hribovc8824. 07. 2011 22:01:09
Even with this one you never know what's behind iteekjeziknasmeh
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joža x25. 07. 2011 16:54:41
Why is there no fear of him, because he doesn't resemble a wolf, which was supposedly the first dog in the world, but to...... I have no idea.
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Žiga2225. 07. 2011 17:35:52
No problem, you put batteries in it, and it is velik nasmeh.
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VanSims25. 07. 2011 17:36:45
@joža_x: ...to the caricature of a wolf! mežikanje

By the way also reply to TejaB: In the last extreme cases I mentioned, only the weight of accumulated frustrations, anxieties and troubles is potentiated, as well as psychological inclination to extreme actions. The principle is otherwise the same.
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TejaB25. 07. 2011 18:24:33
That's not a dog, but a seal disguised as a dog zavijanje z očmi- good camouflage, really cute thing.velik nasmeh
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