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| jprim15. 07. 2015 18:26:14 |
Wow, great pics, our photo gadget is in Czechia for repair, so already some tours without pics.
LP!
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| otiv16. 07. 2015 13:29:38 |
@jprim, thanks and hope they fix your gadget soon. I got a smartphone as backup so I don't stay without mountain shots.
Nice greetings and enjoy the hikes.
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| otiv16. 07. 2015 21:10:10 |
Zlatica, thanks! It looks like hiking is dear to your heart, that you've gone to Mangart for the second time in such a short time. 
I'm not sure that your bellflower is pot-bellied, the flowers are too elongated. There is quite a sea of bellflowers, so let's wait for our professors to write something more.
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| Apolonija16. 07. 2015 22:58:50 |
Oh, so much beautiful flowers, Otiv and Zlatica. I would also go to Mangart. The creeping soldanella particularly attracts me with its "hairstyle". Also the saussurea. It seems to me that three saussureas grow in Slovenia: alpine, bicolored and pygmy (Saussurea alpina, S.discolor, S.pygmea). On the pictures it should be alpine? Probably? Maybe pygmy?
I must tell prof.Bavcon that you found another white variety, forget-me-not.
The unknown one is Gerard's hawkweed.
The lichen is really interesting. The plant below it is also interesting, which is barely visible- leaf rosettes and flower. Zlatica, what could that be?
Ah, those bellflowers, right Otiv? Rusty and bulbous are really similar. What do you say, Zlatica? Is it bulbous? Are there different clumps on all pictures? Leaf rosettes are not visible. Most flowers are narrowed at the top, not even on the first picture, more on the second and third picture, which could mean it's rather rusty.
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| otiv17. 07. 2015 17:13:41 |
Brane, I'm not sure about your bulbous bellflower either that it's the real one. I've attached pictures of bulbous bellflower that I took at Jezerci under Viševnik and they differ from your flowers.
In the book Alpine Flowers (Wolfgang Lippert) it mentions about Scheuchzer's bellflower that there are numerous similar species and yours is probably one of them.
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| Apolonija17. 07. 2015 18:54:09 |
Otiv, I agree, it's probably not bulbous. Bulbous is wide like a little bell at the cup and not narrowed. But you won't comment on picture 9?
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| otiv17. 07. 2015 19:14:49 |
Now I only noticed that he swapped the names Zois to Clusi  . Yes, you can see it's hot. 
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| velkavrh17. 07. 2015 20:05:07 |
I really type a bit too fast. On Monday I'll go exploring Komna with Planina Govnač. On the way there and on it I always find something interesting and rare.
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| zlatica17. 07. 2015 20:54:48 |
Good evening! Apolonija, you rightly asked me several questions, I was a bit rushed again because I went hiking again today in Karavanke- Ljubeljska Baba (Košutica), Hajnževo sedlo-Planina Korošica and back to Ljubelj via hunter's path.
Now back to my flowers: bellflowers, yes, they could be rusty, although I don't know the differences well either, they were so beautiful that I just declared them bulbous. All three pictures are from different clumps of bellflowers. But I see I'm not the only one who has trouble identifying these bellflowers. It almost consoles me a bit...
Regarding different saussureas I'm not informed at all. I thought there was only alpine. The first one was really low and by that logic it could be pygmy. I still need to learn the distinguishing features for the other two types of saussurea.
What is that under the lichen? uf, you observe well, Apolonija, I didn't notice it at all. Is it another rock-jasmine? Do you maybe know what it could be?
Tomorrow probably some flowers from today... Branko, we were almost at the same end around Hajnževo sedlo, on Monday explore well and surprise us with something.lp
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| zlatica18. 07. 2015 19:38:46 |
dleskovec, you said it nicely, how you experience blooming beauty. I would comment on some of your flowers: for 16 and 17 it would be hard to say it's furrowed rock-jasmine (there are three types anyway, and it's neither carniolan, nor dark purple, nor musky), because the leaf rosette is not well visible, flowers of many rock-jasmines are very similar and harder key for identification. I don't know, rather I would say it's blue-green rock-jasmine. No. 22 looks like golden cinquefoil and not avens, 30-31 is many-headed and not many-leaved dryad,37-38 looks like scaly rock-jasmine to me, 52-53 plane-leaved golden saxifrage, 55-56 is globe-flower, just don't know which species, since there are quite a few from narrow-leaved to broad-leaved and knife-leaved or Scheuchzer's (maybe this one, because it has one flower per stem and if not higher than 30cm), 54 is round-leaved rock-jasmine, 58-59 alpine goldenrod. Otherwise, other flower experts will surely add something in terms of addition or correction where I was wrong too. lp and keep it up, dleskovec.
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| Apolonija18. 07. 2015 20:00:46 |
Dleskovec, hello!
my opinion:
52, 53 plane-leaved golden saxifrage
55, 56 broad-leaved globe-flower
54 round-leaved rock-jasmine
57 alpine wormwood or white mugwort
58 59 mountain goldenrod
60, 61 common alpine clubmoss
Škržolica2 is not hairy at all, it's smooth. Probably it's just golden cinquefoil. The rock-jasmine is rather scaly than blue-green. I also think it's not furrowed, but just this blue-green one.
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| zlatica18. 07. 2015 20:35:27 |
Apolonija, I looked a bit more at the hairy ones and think that my one from Mangart is really dwarf, as you suggested and I was completely guessing yesterday up there. What about that yellow flower next to the lichen, is it rock-jasmine in your opinion?
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| otiv18. 07. 2015 21:42:54 |
Oh where are you cool
in this heat I'd like to feel you,
to cool off a bit
and live anew.
Dleskovec, on picture 43 it won't be pot-bellied bellflower, but Scheuchzer's bellflower, of which there are many species, as I already wrote yesterday.
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