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velkavrh21. 07. 2016 07:32:51

Yesterday I made a late decision to go to Črna prst to photograph murke. I went to the foot of Matajurski vrh, where a whole meadow smells of vanilla or chocolate - as you wish. It is full of rhelikanijevih (black murke). In this part of the Julijci, one could really call them black murke, because they are small, slightly conical, and of an extremely dark color. Nowhere in the Julijci do I see such ones. The first conditionally called black murke we encounter individually already right away, when from Črna prst we go along the ridge to the Vrata saddle, and then there are increasingly more of them below the peaks Četrt, Konjski vrh, Poljanski vrh. There were no red ones in between - now called two-colored. Only under Matajurski vrh - the largest stand - did I find just a couple already slightly faded - so they bloom before the black ones. On the botanical path itself, the marked flowers have mostly wilted. The sign for košutnik is by the little path. But it is interesting that there above the path on the left side, when going upward, there is a larger košutnik stand and no košutnik has flowers - I walked through this stand and checked. Last year they bloomed here but somehow two weeks later. Also along the entire path I then encountered košutnik, but only leaves.

Clustered bellflower on the botanical path - not labeled.

There are lots of these small hawkweeds. I can't tell them apart.

Flower of the mountain thistle. There was also the broad-leaved one.

Triumfett's hawkweed - distinguished by fringes on the involucre leaf. This one has brown fringes.

This is mountain hawk's-beard - Crepis bocconi.

I found the first primroses already at the hut on Črna prst.

Around the hut there are still plenty of flowering silver speedwells.

Noriška clover is still blooming here, found only around the hut.

There is also plenty of Carniolan lily or golden apple. The Turk's cap lily is also common.

There is plenty of swallow-wort here too.

Rock houseleek - I always find it on this ridge from Črna prst onwards.

A fairly strong wind was blowing along the entire ridge. Many flowers wouldn't let themselves be photographed like Clusius' five-fingers.

Starry knapweed is in full bloom - there are masses of it.

July lousewort. I also found a faded yellow one, characteristic of Črna prst.

Bluish-green rockjasmine, I also found Hosta's and the encrusted one. No other species seen.

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anka 21. 07. 2016 08:33:35

16- Common spotted orchid

zlatica21. 07. 2016 09:16:54

Brane, nice flowers you picked. Around Črna prst there's really rich flora terrain. Not clear to me is only 29, when you say alpine pink? Does this species exist? At first glance I'd say wild pink. zmeden

zlatica21. 07. 2016 09:28:18

This time the path with a group of hikers took me to a more remote end of Slovenia, to Mrzli vrh from Krn village. Given that there are known pasture areas, there are also fewer flowers left on the pastures, but some were still found on Mrzli vrh itself. lp nasmeh

which flower is this, we racked our brains, it reminded of elder, but no

stemless thistle with a huge black visitor

otiv21. 07. 2016 10:28:05

Hello, Zlatica!
You know flowers well, but pinks give you trouble, as I see you found Sternberg's pink. On my picture it's Montpellier pink and the difference in petal shape is clear.

velkavrh21. 07. 2016 11:05:14

Continuing with Črna prst.

Rhelikanijeva primrose, taken of course very close up.

This is how the habitat of these primroses looks. Here and there black morels peek out from the grass - intoxicatingly fragrant.

Among these black primroses I found only four already slightly wilted bicolored (red) primroses.

Kobulnica, which has already wilted - smells of anise. This is fragrant masterwort.

Bellflower. It is the most common among mountain meadows.

Sternberg's pink - has only one flower on the stem - protected.

Turkish lilies from the pasture behind Lisec along the entire ridge.

Golden cinquefoil, in the forest I found pinnate cinquefoil too.

Flowers of Host's rockjasmine on botanical path - nowhere else.

Flowers of scaly rockjasmine, encountered on whole path - most common on ridge too.

Here is common kukavičnik in its usual color.

Sivica, but not obirska. It should be potočna sivica.

For this shot I had to climb a little. In general, zoisove zvončice are not yet blooming.

It blooms only high in the rocks in the rock fissures.

Large-flowered popon on the botanical path.

Lučkovolistni dimek on the botanical path.

This is that yellow ušivec - wilted, that I mentioned. It is Hacquetov ušivec typical for Črno prst. I have never seen it flowering.

Dolgocvetna perla on the botanical path.

Now is the time for kosmata škržololica.

This flower makes the light blue. Navadna gorska ločika makes these blue carpets.

zlatica21. 07. 2016 14:39:44

Otiv, you know, some things go harder into our heads, but this will settle someday too. Why I thought so is because they all had more flowers per stem, meaning it's not one-flowered; shapes of M. k. aren't so strictly defined either, are they? What exactly defines the visible differences between the two? That the petals are more spread in M. k., while in Sternberg's they stick together? That's clear to me from your comparative picture. Thanks for this time and try with me again sometime when it doesn't go. velik nasmeh

anka 21. 07. 2016 15:05:55

40, 41 - It's just one, called common mountain sow-thistle

otiv21. 07. 2016 15:18:50

Since we're just at the common mountain sow-thistle, I'm sending you a nice white specimen of this plant that adorns Snežnik.

otiv21. 07. 2016 15:33:32

Zlatica, as you yourself already figured out the flowers differ at the corolla lobes, which at the Montpellier pink are more apart and also much more deeply divided from Sternberg's pink. And by my estimate the Montpellier pink doesn't smell as strongly as Sternberg's...checked yesterday velik nasmeh

zlatica21. 07. 2016 15:35:48

Otiv, thanks for the info. Now I think I've learned this lesson. All praise for the white sow-thistle that awaited you on Snežnik. You surely have more in your bag for us. velik nasmeh

otiv21. 07. 2016 15:51:53

Some more little thing from my bag... velik nasmeh

Komata is enough for the hairy chickweed

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Apolonija21. 07. 2016 17:39:46

You are great! I enjoy looking at the photos. Zlatica, see how they respect you. You just whined a bit and the flowers already bloomed here.

How Slovenes complicate. The name Cicerbita alpina we don't translate as alpine sow-thistle, but mountain sow-thistle and even common besides. zmeden

Zlatica, around 17 different pink species grow here, alpine too. Brane, still check yours which one it is. By the photo it seems more wild. Sorry if wrong. But surely not wrong: You didn't photo the rose-red cranesbill- pic 20.

Otiv, your bag is full of treasures. nasmeh

I believe you know well various pinks, still I think Zlatica didn't err this time. Don't know, just my opinion.
Flower pic maybe also depends on shooting angle.?
Attaching pic for you. Are all same species? nasmeh

velkavrh21. 07. 2016 18:25:17

Apolonija, indeed the rose-red cranesbill is similar in flower to the hairy hawkweed-I had photographed both. One got lost somewhere for me.

zlatica21. 07. 2016 20:01:39

Otiv, thanks, you nicely pampered us; that's what I was waiting for. mežikanje

Branko, you also gave us a basket of flowers to admire and learn from. Apolonija, about your collage of pinks ...what to say, since I still don't know enough? Are they all Montpelliers? How to find one's way in this jungle of varieties and similarities? Can you help us some more with descriptive details? regards nasmeh

otiv21. 07. 2016 20:23:12

Apolonija, they can't be smelled, so there's nothing doing with solving the puzzle. velik nasmeh

Apolonija21. 07. 2016 20:47:17

Ha-ha, Otiv, I laughed. You are witty.

Zlatica, yes all flowers are from the same plant, the Montpellier one.
Yes the flowers of both are really different, as Otiv showed and as you figured out, and in nature you distinguish them. Solely by the flower on the pictures I myself would hardly reliably say which one it is. More important to me seem- height, number of flowers, smell (as Otiv says).
My Sternberg ones in the garden flowered off quite some time ago, the Montpelliers just started. The first have really only one flower per stem, the others more. Lp nasmeh

zlatica21. 07. 2016 22:58:24

Hats off, Apolonija and Otiv, we've thoroughly "discussed" these pinks, now the only puzzle left for me is Branet's alpine pink, which is supposed to have some special feature different from the wild one.? Rather poor information on this topic on the net. mrk pogled

Well, so that there's still something left for tomorrow's conversation.. velik nasmeh

otiv22. 07. 2016 09:47:15

Zlatica, let me comfort you, the alpine pink does not grow here, at least that's what it says in my handbook. But the feature of the alpine pink is that the corolla lobes at the base are scarlet red and white-dotted.

Apolonija22. 07. 2016 10:42:05

Otiv, my handbook also says so - probably we have the same - and I don't know if it doesn't list wrong data perhaps. We find it in the register of Slovenian flora (Wraber). It also grows at my place. nasmeh