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| zlatica22. 08. 2016 10:11:09 |
Of course, nodding thistle is quite nice, especially if you make a slight detour around it, then you keep a nice memory of it.
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| Apolonija23. 08. 2016 18:59:31 |
Dear king Where did you meet her?
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| otiv23. 08. 2016 19:26:55 |
Miri reminded me of her and I went to see her alone on Porezen.
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| darinka423. 08. 2016 19:31:05 |
What is this that grows on Čavensko pogorje, relative of this?
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| Apolonija23. 08. 2016 20:23:44 |
darinka4, this one, common knapweed, really has similar color as alpine gentian and also pricks. Otherwise they are in different families: knapweed belongs to Asteraceae, gentian to Gentianaceae. So not closely related.
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| darinka423. 08. 2016 20:57:04 |
Aha, thanks. 
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| zlatica24. 08. 2016 07:44:44 |
Continuing with thorny flowers. Yesterday on the return from Lipanski vrh and Mrežc I came across two, very similar in flowers "thistles", which differ mainly in leaves. Pictures aren't the best because I was hurrying in the group.. . I need your help.
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| velkavrh24. 08. 2016 07:58:23 |
zlatica both thorny ones are thistles. Under 1. and 2. is thick-leaved thistle-Carduus crassifolius sp. crassifolius. Under 3.,4.,and 5. is hill thistle-Carduus collinus ssp. cylindricus. Determination is accurate -I know and distinguish them very well. This year I've seen them many times-also yesterday on tour to Veliki vrh above Kofce.
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| zlatica24. 08. 2016 09:38:23 |
Brane, is that then the second hill thistle? But just curious, have you ever seen the tailed one? Doesn't it have similar leaves or do you know what's the difference between them? The flowers and capitula seem very similar to me, or am I wrong? You caught quite a few flowers in Karavanke. Thanks for the help anyway. 
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| Apolonija24. 08. 2016 11:38:48 |
Brane, I'm curious too. Is scree bellflower a synonym for bushy bellflower? Is your hawkweed Bohinj or alpine? Regards
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| otiv24. 08. 2016 17:33:42 |
I don't get where that leaf color of the mullein comes from.
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| darinka424. 08. 2016 17:54:57 |
This one is mullein. First time hearing it.
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| otiv24. 08. 2016 18:01:26 |
@darinka4, yours just has more flowers.  Mullein occurs in nature in two forms, one is in your picture and the other in mine, where flowers are nicely arranged along the whole stem. 
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| darinka424. 08. 2016 18:07:31 |
But very beautiful, right?
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| otiv24. 08. 2016 18:10:44 |
Yours is wonderful, just more awkward for photographing.  
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| Apolonija24. 08. 2016 19:15:06 |
But I have one with leaves in the "same plane". otiv, leaf color? Minerals, sun frost?
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| otiv24. 08. 2016 19:53:45 |
Thanks, Apolonija. Probably something with minerals, I hardly believe sun and frost would affect the plant like that. Like with other flowers, we can find varying color strengths in the mullein too from light to dark blue and yours is already lighter.
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| velkavrh24. 08. 2016 20:29:28 |
Apolonija, it's really alpine saw-wort. For bellflower, limestone bellflower is more correct.
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