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| rokeg29. 09. 2024 21:35:22 |
Slowly and nicely one by one, and we'll grow to the challenge. A couple years ago I only looked at pictures and read descriptions between Strug and Vevnica with fear, but somehow I climbed it, and much more. Far from climbing Mali Prisank or Prevčev stolp this year or soon, but someday. When Rokavi are conquered, then something else.
Mali Prisank too then?
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| bongo30. 09. 2024 00:42:19 |
The whole thing is more of a quite well-set parody than truth. Similarity to some real internet personalities is purely coincidental. 
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| Hammond30. 09. 2024 07:25:49 |
Like I said: there are peaks and routes where I'd rather not go. Mali Prisank is one of them.
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| Loerst30. 09. 2024 10:09:02 |
@rokeg If you're collecting peaks, the website www.peakbagger.com might interest you. It has all 828 Slovenian peaks with prominence over 100 m (say that's the limit when something is a "peak" by all criteria), and a couple hundred other points (mostly less prominent peaks). A large part has heights verified by LIDAR (which is a special topic that could have its own discussion). There are actually 8316 peaks according to GURS, but their database is quite unreliable with many errors. But here it's all the nubs from Debelega rtiča upwards, which from the view of someone who likes hiking hills probably makes no sense.
Lists of two-thousanders are problematic for several reasons. The first was already said - people then rush to some elevation points and expose themselves beyond their abilities, even when it makes no sense. Especially because of lack of definition when a point is a peak, they are compiled arbitrarily, and so there are a bunch of side peaks, elevation points, geographic areas...
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| rokeg30. 09. 2024 20:31:20 |
Loerst. The site is known to me. I used it sometimes. All peaks in Slovenia are around 16000, with names of course.
I don't go to nameless points for now and have no intention.
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| lijaneja1. 10. 2024 20:15:37 |
I just noticed this thread now.
Rok, I think you're exaggerating a bit with your transports, accesses and peak conquering. You're young, you go to uni, surely you already have a wide circle of people - your like-minded ones. In the middle of the second half of the last century not everyone had their own car, but we drove to some mountain starting point at least two weekends a month. And don't forget. Back then not every family even had a landline phone, let alone today's devices.
I'm surprised no one in the discussion mentioned the guide course that PZS organizes every year. There you'll get all basic skills, I think it covers at least twenty topics, of course also roping, belaying..., at least it was like that 40 years ago. That's five or six extended weekends in mountain huts - inquire how it is now. If you join one of the PD societies, it'll be affordable financially too.
I laughed at Hammond's comment with 8000 points over 2000m - yeah, in Switzerland or Austria, but not with us for sure.
Peakbagger is an interesting thing, since every conquered peak is nicely stored chronologically, but the system unfortunately isn't perfected yet.
https://www.peakbagger.com/climber/climblistc.aspx?cid=32409
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| turbo2. 10. 2024 09:10:49 |
As far as I know, the guide courses were intended for training mountain guides, usually societies sent their candidates there. And they were tied to their PD and after the course had some sort of obligation to "return the favor" to their PD by leading trips. If it's still like that, it doesn't help Rok at all, since he expressed no desire to become a PD guide, and above all question if he even meets the entry conditions regarding eye problems.
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| lijaneja2. 10. 2024 10:10:13 |
Exactly as you wrote, Bojan! Too much knowledge doesn't hurt the head.
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| robter2. 10. 2024 10:30:17 |
There are also plenty of mountaineering schools. This is mainly intended for people who will someday find themselves off-trail and need to tie a knot, make a rope fence, belay or rappel down a rope.
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| dprapr2. 10. 2024 13:05:39 |
You won't make it without a climbing partner, since they won't register you in the AO. That's a fact. Just knowing how to rappel isn't enough,...
Especially since you have trips in mind that require belaying a second. Even alpinists rarely do such trips solo.
As a student, you have plenty of opportunities to find someone with knowledge and similar wishes.
Nowadays everything is upside down. In the past, it was mainly old alpinists who tackled such trips. These trips aren't as innocent as they look. Sometimes it's easier in a steep wall than in crumbly terrain, where a fall even with protection can be fatal because there aren't many intermediate belays.
As for transport, you'll have to accept that trips won't be day trips. Just like in my youth. And as far as I can see, we're going back to that, and soon you won't be the only one using public transport.
I wish you many beautiful trips and don't rush. You have plenty of time if you take care of yourself. For all these trips and more. But you won't conquer all mountains.
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| Hammond2. 10. 2024 18:19:26 |
lijaneja, sorry I can't offer you a written source from where I remember this data. But you can take some peak or massif and count precisely all the summits over 2000m sticking out from the top domes, saddles and ridges. E.g. Prisank, Škrlatica, Kanin massif, Martuljek peaks. Of course, the question arises what the appropriate relative height should be to count as an independent point, but here I don't necessarily mean 50m, but possibly less. I don't know what the criterion was in the source swirling in my head and what's still "acceptable" (the eternal question when determining what's a peak and what not). I'm sure you'll quickly count quite a few of these points (say on average 20 per peak), and when you multiply by about 350 two-thousanders, the number 6000 won't be hard to reach. Then we'll laugh together.
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| turbo2. 10. 2024 18:26:31 |
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| lijaneja2. 10. 2024 20:37:27 |
This is a list with added cross-border Julians, otherwise it's (for now) 411 peaks over 2000m with name and measured height here.
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| Hammond2. 10. 2024 20:54:57 |
turbo, I'm not talking about peaks, but about points.
lijaneja, you probably know yourself how problematic some of these "peaks" are. One would rather classify them as points. 
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| lijaneja2. 10. 2024 21:53:50 |
No, quite the opposite. Believe me, I'm really happy about every newly discovered one and gladly tackle it, of course if it's within my reach. Unfortunately, a scant dozen peaks will remain unvisited on my side.
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| Hammond3. 10. 2024 06:56:19 |
That's the essence of it all - exploring the unknown.
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| DVas3. 10. 2024 08:48:21 |
Is there a list of these 411 somewhere?
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| Hammond3. 10. 2024 08:57:57 |
On turbo's link minus all foreign peaks - I assume.
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| turbo3. 10. 2024 09:02:21 |
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| DVas3. 10. 2024 09:50:02 |
Now make checkmarks. Thanks.
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