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| vagabund5. 01. 2012 12:49:55 |
It seems this still continues under Krim. They broke the rear side glass on my car one month ago (4.12.2011) and that day at least three of us had it happen.
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| korl5. 01. 2012 12:50:53 |
Okomodko - "past no this". No of course there was no such thing, crooks in the past went to confession and then diligently to work! Where did you grow up, India Koromandiji?
I mean those who hunt honest drivers who drive 55 km/h behind theft sign which is moved half km from village because of one lonely hut in woods, meanwhile drunks rage on roads but don't bother with them.
Need to hunt and sanction sinners, not set lime for magpies.
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| Andrej Potrata5. 01. 2012 13:33:00 |
No window was broken, but with crowbar destroyed door. Also I think no leave things in visible places, but colleague from Denmark got the lesson right away.
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| CarpeDiem2475. 01. 2012 13:39:38 |
That location near the hut in Iški Vintgar seems extremely "thievish", as they also stole my wallet from the car (about 2 years ago), but I was partly to blame myself, since I had the sunroof open. Well, every school costs something. 
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| Andrej Potrata5. 01. 2012 14:19:53 |
They don't break into every car just because of an ordinary jacket.
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| turbo5. 01. 2012 15:06:37 |
Opportunity makes a thief 
Never ever anywhere do I leave anything in the car in plain sight.
I always keep my wallet and documents with me.
Any more valuable item I leave in the car, I hide as best as I can.
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| IgorZlodej5. 01. 2012 15:15:52 |
Social and personal self-protection, where have you gone. I'm sure many people see a lot, especially the more suspicious ones, not just hikers, number 113 is free, every piece of info is welcome.
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| VanSims5. 01. 2012 15:54:05 |
I agree with turbotom. I do the same.
Crime has unfortunately become part of our lives, the authorities that should prosecute it unfortunately don't work as they should and can't be everywhere, self-protection remains for us.
I don't know what people think? If they think at all? That after a break-in the police will come and automatically get the stuff back and compensation for damage? That didn't even happen in the previous regime, when we still had somewhat of a police.
I read in the chronicle when by chance a car thief was convicted. He stole at Ljubljana beaches. Unbelievable: all three victims left the car unlocked, inside a wallet with bank card and PIN written on it. Yeah, of course PIN, that's something the bank torments its clients with and screws them over by making them enter it when withdrawing or paying. 
And exactly as Igor said, calling 113 costs nothing. But firstly people think, that doesn't happen to me. If everyone strictly reported all such things they notice, maybe it would be easier for the police too. And not just thieves. Drunks on the road for example. I've already called 113 a few times when someone was swerving in front of me. Now, whether the police tracked him down and/or fined him or he's protected and will get away, I don't care afterwards. I've done my duty.
Secondly, among us that false solidarity with those who act against laws and social norms still prevails. They still evoke more pity than (potential) victims or that mentality prevails that it's "snitching". If in the USA you exceed the strict speed limits on the highway by just 10-20 mph, you immediately have police on your tail. Police aren't omnipresent there either, but someone who notices you will call them. That's not snitching there but self-protection. The one who calls the police knows that such a "madman" could threaten him or his family next time.
In Sweden, neighbors will call animal inspection for example if they just see you're not walking your dog. With us, we know cases where everyone knew about severe animal abuse but no one reported because it would be excessive neighbor snitching and the reporter would surely end up with punctured tire on his car for example. All this is a consequence of them drilling into our heads so much that you mustn't snitch, which is completely wrong upbringing.
So personal self-protection and strict reporting of irregularities that could screw us over sometime too, that's it.
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| jax5. 01. 2012 16:19:25 |
Here I have to chime in, because I think the whole thing is going a bit too far. First: Okmodko, I don't follow these pages very long or often, but I remember you exclusively and only because of nationalist provocations. I'll say just one thing, maybe clichéd: at least in the mountains we could rise above such divisions.
VanSims: your comment, unlike okmodko's, is argued, but I don't agree with it. In my opinion, the attitude towards law and police is simply about certain structural contradictions that it's not wise to resolve. Do we really want a society where we're friends with the police? No, police are authority, authority is dictate, not friend. As for sympathy with offenders, it's much simpler: the fact that we don't treat a speeding driver the same as an intentional murderer, although exalted preventive authorities suggest we should, is simply because they're not the same. They can hammer into our heads as much as they want that they are, but they're not. And that's why perpetrators of petty offenses will always have sympathy among people. Because people are aware we're not saints, even though they want to tell us we must be. And the fact that the police aren't capable of doing their job correctly by no means means we have to replace them with some kind of people's gestapo.
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| korl5. 01. 2012 16:33:27 |
Hallelujah, finally a sensible comment on this forum!
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| tom6665. 01. 2012 18:49:21 |
Yeah right, regulations are just there to be broken, no big deal. The one who drives too fast is also a potential killer from negligence. Quite simple. I agree with VanSims.
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| Afriški Janez5. 01. 2012 19:01:23 |
I was in Iški Vintgar for the first time this year, and I have to say I saw who goes there too, and I got a bit nationalistic too, especially when I spotted those mini gangs on scooters, those little thieves... But we're to blame ourselves...
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| viharnik5. 01. 2012 19:39:16 |
Luckily no one has broken into my car in all these years. But I've already seen in Vrata a BMW SUV on blocks and the desperate owner next to it, instead of on rims. Some were also complaining that they were broken into years ago.
In the worst case, if someone carried off my entire VW IV on their shoulders, the damage would still be less than 2000€
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| ljubitelj gora5. 01. 2012 20:02:55 |
Not to me yet, because I never leave valuables in the car, nor do I leave any bags on the seats so the burglar might think there's something inside.
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| Okmodko5. 01. 2012 21:13:46 |
Hey jax put your wallet on the bench in Rakova jelša and once in the village Čadrg and you'll see where it disappears first. You'll see the difference between nationalism and real truth!
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| Alpski Slovenc5. 01. 2012 21:21:13 |
Break-ins into vehicles happen and will happen. That it happens to us is because we leave more valuable items in plain sight. The one who intends to break in will break in where the risk is smallest and that's when he sees left valuables on the dashboard, seat, under seat etc. Tires too (mount one security bolt per tire) come into play if they are new. Rarely do they break into a vehicle just on a bluff or as we say empty. It even happens that citizens see the burglars, and these citizens deliberately look away, so they don't want to see or hear anything. Sadly that's reality, but that's another story that doesn't belong here. The best prevention is not to leave anything in visible places. The one who sees someone loitering around vehicles or scouting should note the license plate, make and more, maybe even secretly photograph (we all have fairly modern GSM) and call 113. That's it, thanks.
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| sk25. 01. 2012 21:51:59 |
My car was also broken into (professionally) so that I noticed only at home, nothing disappeared because there was nothing valuable inside.
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| megalodon5. 01. 2012 22:28:40 |
I didn't want to get involved, but it won't let me rest, so I'll stick out my tongue too. 
I'm sad that my beloved Slovenia fights, mildly speaking, a very strange country.
1. CLEARLY who is to blame for MOST (exceptions prove the rule) such thefts, remember also the copper on the Russian chapel and copper gutters on our little churches and other buildings. BUT if you just mention WHO (I won't deliberately  ) you're already a nationalist, intolerant... SADLY that's the CRUEL reality!
2. In the end, in most comments the victim is to blame. HELLO! I can leave the car unlocked, keys inside, even 500 or 1000 EUR next to it, and NO ONE has the right to even TOUCH it. That's the same nonsense as saying the girl in mini is to blame because someone raped her?!!
Things need to be put in their place as soon as possible and the scoundrels should be fairly and strictly punished. PERIOD!!
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| risto5. 01. 2012 22:53:02 |
Things change, then they disappear too.
Obviously someone is very watchful over the "likeability" of what's written. Must be $burnt$ !
Oh you villain thief!
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