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| Sano9. 01. 2012 16:42:29 |
@rekar, you tell others not to be too smart, while you say things for which you have no basis or confirmation. Your claim that when catching a burglar we can't detain him or prevent his escape is wrong. How smart and safe that is, is of course another matter.
Let me support my claim. According to Article 160 of the Criminal Procedure Act, I quote:
"Anyone may deprive of liberty the person caught in the commission of an offence prosecuted ex officio. He shall then hand him over without delay to the investigating judge or the police; if this is not possible, he shall without delay notify one of these authorities."
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| belaxx9. 01. 2012 16:43:51 |
VanSims: I often disagree with you, but this time I fully agree. If we think that scoundrels need to be prosecuted and reported only when we ourselves are victims, it will surely seem strange to us that no one came to our aid. And it won't be strange, they'll just think like us: It doesn't concern me, since it's not happening to me.
Yeah that's how it is!
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| FLEKSARCA9. 01. 2012 16:44:35 |
Exactly VanSims, with a pepper spray on sensitive body parts, I'm with you .
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| VanSims9. 01. 2012 18:14:23 |
Yeah, probably nowhere does it say that we can't prevent the perp from committing the crime even with pepper spray. Especially if we're defending ourselves, probably also our property. This method is actually the safest regarding injuries we can cause the perp, and quite cheap regarding possible sanctions.
Pepper spray is less harmful than beatings as it doesn't leave consequences. When used properly it's faster and more effective too. And if some cop pins misuse on us, I think the fine is just monetary cca. 200-something EUR. For some maybe a lot but still better than jail and some compensations for beatings.
FLEKSARCA do you know which body parts are sensitive to pepper spray? 
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| JusAvgustin9. 01. 2012 18:31:33 |
too bad there's no more CS to get , and baseball bat we have always in the car with Pipi...
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| VanSims9. 01. 2012 18:37:41 |
@Jus: CS as far as I know they still sell, unless they stopped recently.
But CS can be dangerous. It's chemistry and in some (admittedly rarer) cases can cause injuries e.g. blindness.
Safer (and equally effective) is pepper spray, which is natural.
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| martin49. 01. 2012 18:42:47 |
Hello,
is this still hribi.net forum
regards
m4
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| som699. 01. 2012 19:28:22 |
My wish too is that we talk about this on some other forum, but the reality of Slovenian mountains is different.
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| @rekar9. 01. 2012 19:42:20 |
Here some smartass shows up, turns hribi.net forum into police forum, just because he has nothing else to do. It's been written about here already and extremists still turn it occasionally into other polemics.
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| @rekar9. 01. 2012 20:15:01 |
I recommend you move to the forum POLICIJA.SI, there you'll probably be welcome
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| risto9. 01. 2012 20:32:52 |
It would be good to check page 1 how this writing started. I suggest those who got broken into organize and catch these thieves themselves. Okomodko should lead it. I don't recommend ice axe, various sticks etc. More cameras and the catch is guaranteed. It was stolen and it will be; now it's trendy!
Over twenty years ago from a friend -
all four wheels with alu rims stolen, car thrown on side so chassis damaged too. At Savica Waterfall. They know to charge parking and fines
guarding parking lot doesn't interest them. Maybe at night they change jobs.
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| @rekar9. 01. 2012 20:52:18 |
risto... bravo you wrote that well, I join your comment
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| Loni10. 01. 2012 07:59:03 |
It seems to me a totally constructive topic, break-ins and other crimes happen everywhere, also in mountains.
a bit off topic. I'm wondering if police ever checked alcohol in mountains? I know they do, I've met them myself more than once. And just on Sunday I saw a prime example, whom they rescued by helicopter years ago because drunk he slipped where he shouldn't.
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| @rekar10. 01. 2012 15:42:33 |
Loni....are you literate? I'll repeat once again, please go to POLICIJA.SI and discuss such things there, who stole what from whom, who swapped sticks and who is drunk. If someone gets drunk, they get drunk with their own money and everyone answers for themselves, not that you have such concerns here that have nothing to do with you at all. I'm already full up to k..... with your sick comments. If you don't have anything nice to write here then better not open this forum. THANKS
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| turbo10. 01. 2012 15:50:11 |
@rekar,
who forces you to read this 
Don't be sick and don't read, it'll be easier for you.
Thanks to you too.
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| Okmodko10. 01. 2012 16:28:33 |
Well because this thread started with a lady's post how they broke into her car at Iški Vintgar. And since I also know what kind of people go there. Those who have no sense for nature. I would suggest putting a barrier at the beginning of the road to Iški Vintgar. With surveillance camera on it. Car entry should be paid, like in Logarska. And viewing Vintgar should also be chargeable like Blejski Vintgar. Whoever likes to steal surely won't pay the entrance fee. So someone thinking of grilling ćevapčiči in the gorge will think twice when seeing the fee. Because it hurts when you walk through a wild gorge with really wonderful pools and see rubbish floating in them. Iški Vintgar is really one of the most beautiful parts in Slovenia, at least the upper part and it should be much better protected. Blejski Vintgar doesn't reach its knees in beauty, but is much better protected and arranged. If someone knows someone from Iška municipality, suggest it to him
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| stefanb10. 01. 2012 20:48:27 |
JusAvgustin, if you meet those I ran into I'm sure your aggressiveness will fade. In my case it was a group of several men ready to trash over 20 cars for a few euros.
These people have nothing to lose, practically they go on a plundering raid. Because I could see later at the police, these people live, eat, sleep in the car for days or weeks. How many vehicles they actually damaged in other places during that time I don't know. But there were several break-ins in that period from Krvavec, Planica, Kot, Krma. Here their story ended then, but I think not for long.
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| viharnik10. 01. 2012 21:00:35 |
Most such uncivilized behavior and theft happens in autumn, when scoundrels count on heated and meal-provided prisons. They calculate the offense to half a year jail sentence, but when birds start chirping in spring they get released.
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| VanSims11. 01. 2012 07:55:37 |
@MajaO: From the OC label I conclude these tear gases are pepper-based. What the other labels mean, I don't know. Probably some auxiliary substances.
In specs many important data are missing (concentration, SHU factor, even OC label known only to experts,...).
Also segmentation into women's and men's tear gas and for companies (those are usually some bars where you have to calm heated drunks) is purely commercial. What's the difference? That for women it's pink, for men SMB case? And why not vice versa?  Case for belt for tear gas is practical, to have it as soon as possible at hand.
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