Clothing for hiking in the mountains
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| tol4. 01. 2010 19:34:13 |
That they are "reinforced", so you don't tear them right away if you step awkwardly and drag on the gaiters.
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| JusAvgustin4. 01. 2010 19:44:42 |
Berghaus gaiters are quite robust, but they are made of Gore-Tex. The best gaiter is one with as few strings and other straps hanging from it as possible. It's horrifying when I see hikers in crampons with gaiters where all strings and add-ons hang out, perfect to get caught with crampons on them. You'll surely find something for yourself...
these gaiters are on Velcro (strap on strap off), almost no chance of getting tangled.
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| spetovar7. 01. 2010 12:04:49 |
Socks definitely from Lorpen. Swiss shirts suit me best from Karibu (with long sleeves they are nicely warm). Winter pants from Karibu or IcePeak, summer ones, whatever fits. I like those where you can remove the pant legs. Fleeces of all kinds always come in handy. Then the protective layer (jackets, parkas...). Here there's also the dilemma with Softshells, three-layer Goretex, down jackets,... Here the price starts to rise steeply, as some technical jackets can reach VERY high prices (even 800 €). Of course, if you need such gear.
But I think you need to be aware especially of maintaining all these clothes. Most are made of synthetic material, especially water-repellent ones, which shouldn't be washed with softeners. There are special powders and impregnations, but I always face the dilemma: When I come back from a hike, I never have a full washing machine of mountaineering clothes. If you wash with others, it's so-so. You have several options: hand wash  , wait until you have a full load, or mix them.
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| spetovar7. 01. 2010 12:08:48 |
I'm interested in how you impregnate your clothes? Say WindStopper, SoftShells, Goretex, hiking pants,... I first hand wash the outer layer (dirt), then impregnate with impregnators bought at Iglu. Then obligatorily on a hot radiator to "bake". Is there any other tested method?
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| tol7. 01. 2010 14:00:37 |
I heard from a mountain guide that he impregnates his clothes with shoe spray.
What do you think about that, they sell us 2 sprays for the same purpose, or is there still a difference in what you impregnate clothes with?
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| CAR11. 01. 2010 14:45:50 |
One option is to buy MAXBRIL spray which is used for car trims, hang the parka on a hanger and spray it evenly, it creates a protective layer that helps a lot in rain, but it's not very durable, you have to repeat the process before going on a trip. MAXBRIL also works if you spray sleds or skis then lightly wipe with soft paper and from my own experience I tell you: snow doesn't stick to them and speed increases too. If someone uses my advice, let them report back and say how much truth there is in it.
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| spetovar12. 01. 2010 09:13:30 |
For skis and sleds maybe ok, but for clothes? Wouldn't that prevent the fabric from breathing? If someone tries it, let them report...
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| gregcs112. 01. 2010 15:01:17 |
I wouldn't exactly happily spray a 500€ jacket with that... 
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| andrej76712. 01. 2010 17:05:54 |
I don't say that various three-layer Goretex, jackets and such aren't good, but those things really come into their own only in more extreme conditions - but for example for a trip to Kokrško sedlo at up to -15C I use just a Vaude fleece vest and Craft base layer plus Windstopper pants and even then I'm sometimes hot - well, woolen gloves from boiled wool are always with me 
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| gregcs112. 01. 2010 19:30:55 |
At -15°C it's enough if a little wind starts blowing and something falls from the sky, and you have extreme conditions
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| rs5612. 01. 2010 21:25:41 |
Visit to Racna gora at -18C just base layer Brynje super termo and Soft shel Love alpin, pants kibuba warempeace and long johns (ski underwear Beti).
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| FLEKSARCA12. 01. 2010 21:59:36 |
And now someone will say they were on Koščak hill at -35 in underwear with one wool sock and just a shot of schnapps up the ass. Do we really have to boast all the time?
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| Hribc13. 01. 2010 08:31:35 |
It's good that the gear is somewhat of the same level and suitable for the specific goal. Cotton shirt will get wet and cool you down, even if you have fleece and a 1000 EUR windbreaker over it.
Last time I was in a store and while shopping observed a customer interested in boots and choosing top models, but also asking for rubber crampons with 6 nails With such gear you're still suitable for a hill not for a mountain.
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| spetovar13. 01. 2010 10:34:04 |
Yes, I've experienced extreme conditions too, where it showed how important it is to understand layering. As Hribc said, if one layer fails, the functionality of the others drops drastically. If dressed right, it doesn't mean you need clothes worth 1000€+. These purpose-made clothes (Swiss shirts, fleeces...) are very practical though many swear by natural ones (cotton, wool...).
Fleksarca: good one! 
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| turbo13. 01. 2010 13:58:38 |
Think about how we went to the mountains in the seventies, eighties, up to early nineties. Pumparice shoes, flannel shirt, two or three cotton shirts underneath and some thicker wool pullover. Wind pants and nylon anorak, Adidas or Yassa. Those with more cash skied in Metka down jackets in winter. Backpack mostly from Porenta. Mary appeared to me when I got my first Karrimor.
But the tours we did then were still ambitious. Winter and summer.
Now everything is n-times lighter, n-times tighter and breathable, etc. The tours we do are still top. Winter and summer.
So not everything is in the gear. You need something "in your pants" too, and love nature to happily head into cold, wind and snow. Or heat and humidity. Hand on heart, these fleeces, tex and shells we use now are praiseworthy. But in five to ten years they'll be old eggs anyway. Not due to wear, but fast gear development. Hardware changes too. Hand-forged crampons, then alloys, aluminum, carbon and what not. If I last a few more decades, I'll laugh at the gear I use today. Like I laugh at what I used thirty plus years ago.
And if we think about what we carried for hunger and thirst to mountains then and what we carry now.
But mountains are still the same....
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| andrej76714. 01. 2010 18:14:18 |
Turbo, under this I sign too Exactly right and Fleksarca here nobody is really boasting - but it holds and not just for winter hikers but in general - people in at least 75% seriously overdo clothing. At -5C they put on thickest down jacket, hat, gloves and even scarf so it wouldn't get cold - and it's not some skinny girl on diet but 100kg guy who "needs" it for those 5 min from parking to work 
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| andrej76714. 01. 2010 18:21:59 |
Similar happens in mountains too - I mean it's more visible how people become "softened" and no one goes without gear to hills. Backpack should contain what we might need and on body only the absolute necessary that still allows pleasant tour.
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| rs5614. 01. 2010 19:10:50 |
In the beginning of my hill climbing, I overdressed too. "Functional" clothes I bought at sales in Hervisu and Interspost. Won't say those stores don't have good stuff. They do, but I didn't know how to dress. Only when I started reading these pages and my mountaineering experiences, I started dressing differently. Began buying better clothes. I know price is issue, but we must know some such clothes last much longer, and you need less because you dress/undress so much.
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