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tol15. 01. 2012 11:23:39
I don't know, type "Windstopper hat" into Google?
http://www.google.si/#hl=sl&sa=X&ei=3KgST5qNHMea-gbR67lQ&ved=0CDYQvwUoAQ&q=windstopper+kapa&spell=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.,cf.osb&fp=43b3b2acab36d5b2&biw=1280&bih=827
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katty15. 01. 2012 11:32:31
Yeah I found some at Kibuba. Gotta look somewhere else too. Thanks tol.
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tol15. 01. 2012 12:11:42
Lots of similar stuff is in bike shops.

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izidor215. 01. 2012 12:20:21
And do our rescuers use RECCO systems (radars) too??zmeden
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soncyka23. 01. 2012 11:31:30
Hello!

Could someone advise me on buying mountaineering boots for winter ascents? Such ones that would later be suitable also for ascents above 2000 m a.s.l.? I've already looked a bit on internet pages of shops: Iglu sport, Terra sport, Anapurna, but I'd like to hear some first-hand advice regarding boots. What should they be like in terms of material, moisture permeability? Also, whether it's sensible to buy boots based on if they have option for semi-automatic or automatic crampons. What boots would you recommend to me based on this?

Examples:
La sportiva TRANGO ALP GTX WOMAN

What do you think? Is this boot ok for winter ascents? The price seems very reasonable.

La sportiva NEPAL EXTREME WOMAN

These are probably better anyway, judging by the description, surely suitable for winter ascents, but if the upper ones are ok, I'd rather take those. What do you think?

Condor Evo GTX Salewa

What about these?

I hope I'm not annoying, but I won't rush into something. Since I don't know winter boots best and know that shopkeepers sometimes aren't most unbiased and quickly sell you more expensive than you need.

Then I'm also interested in what gaiters you recommend. What should their characteristics be? Your experiences?

Do these below seem good to you?
Ferrino Brenva
Ferrino Stelvio
Miller Nylon

Thanks for your answers, advice.

Best regards
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novinsekp23. 01. 2012 12:13:30
Since I bought two pairs of new boots last year, I recommend NEPAL EXTREME WOMAN or even better NEPAL EVO GTX (with membrane). I have the latter and I'm very satisfied with them. As a summer boot I use La Sportiva Trango S EVO GTX, but they didn't perform well in winter conditions - poor insulation.... If you're going to high mountains in winter, definitely buy a winter boot that fits automatic crampons or semi-automatic if you want. Good luck with the purchase.nasmeh
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Zebdi23. 01. 2012 17:02:25
If you're looking for a boot exclusively for winter tours and intend to use it also in high mountains, then among the above listed Nepal Extreme is the right choice. I wouldn't pay much attention to Goretex membrane on winter leather boots - at home I have about 8 years old Salomon boots without membrane, and they've never soaked through. Every now and then I wax them, and that's it. In Nepal you'll also freeze much less than in the other two. For summer I have e.g. Sportiva Trango S (quite similar to Trango Alp you mentioned above), and to be honest, I regret buying it. Personally for me it's too stiff for summer and too cold for winter.

About gaiters I've already written something on this forum, so I'll quickly repeat: For myself I'd look for a model that's snug, from not too robust material and with zipper on the front of the boot. Snug so that the gaiter doesn't get caught on crampons, not robust material so that if it does get caught, it tears and consequently you don't trip, zipper because somehow I don't trust Velcro in combination with snow - I admit the last one doesn't have full empirical basis. My recommendation would be Lowe Alpine Front zip gaiter, which you can also get at Iglu.

Best,
P.
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Flora123. 01. 2012 17:10:34
Hi. I have these Salewas myself
http://www.elanshop.si/obutev/pohodna/3075-pohodni-cevlji-salewa-rapace-gtx-ws.html
and chose them mainly because of weight and use of semi-automatic crampons. I was most afraid they'd blister me, but they didn't at all, but I'm not satisfied with the sole, it's Vibram sure, but they grip on snow only half as well as my summer boots on snow. That's the downside, weight is good though. I also looked at Hanwag
http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?cID=3&scID=145&pID=3597, where weight is also (quite) ok. MajaO from here has them, maybe she'll write something.
Now I don't know what's important to you. You write also about automatic or semi-automatic crampons. These boots have fittings only for semi-automatic.
For gaiters the most important to me is that they fit tightly to the leg. Ferrino and co don't appeal to me because they're too loose in my opinion. Better a bit more money and they grip the leg so you can't trip. I also have some old Berghaus, but they serve very well. Something like http://www.buachaille.com/p2583-0-6/Gaiters/Berghaus-GTX-Gaiter.html
Then tell what you chose.
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ZKlemen23. 01. 2012 21:46:28
Fitting for automatic crampons have more or less all serious winter boots anyway. And you probably need such. In various combined boots meant for summer and winter hiking you'll freeze. Really try boots well in the shop because winter boots are quite stiff and prone to blistering. And they don't reshape at all when you wear them for a while. So they blister forever. If winter and leather, so you won't freeze in them, comfort is in my opinion the most important criterion. Try as many as possible. And good luck.
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izidor224. 01. 2012 16:43:29
I can recommend these >>>

Trezeta

best option to buy is >>>

Trezeta Boots

I use them too and they are super.
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soncyka24. 01. 2012 19:45:49
Hi,

you are really kind, you have put a lot of effort into your answers, so thank you very much. I'll look at your suggestions a bit and get back to you over the weekend or some day with maybe another question, later of course also report what I chose. If someone wants to add something more, I'll be very happy.

You are super!
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JusAvgustin27. 01. 2012 17:54:02
Just a little something more: http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/73739/

Regards, PN
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kamenček13. 01. 2013 20:25:20
Hello!

This could be written under any topic, but still - about equipment.

In the past people went to the mountains barefoot (shepherds) or in whatever shoes they had. Remember also with what equipment or without they sometimes conquered unimaginably difficult walls, mountains, ridges, etc. - hemp, wool, wooden chocks, stick...

When we talk about equipment today - what do we mean? Surely shell pants are better than jeans; you move more comfortably, they dry faster, lower risk of hypothermia too, etc. What about avalanche gear? There used to be none, they even taught me to use avalanche cord (if anyone remembers what that is).

So when we talk about equipment, what are we really talking about? Gear that PZS recommends for specific terrain and conditions? Or is it perhaps a legal category – when will it be considered unequipped and charged to you in case of rescue? Or even criminally prosecuted for endangering, etc.?

Technology provides ever better equipment at dizzying prices. Basic gear alone can cost how much – 1000 EUR, 2, 3??
Does this mean that all people without top-notch gear are FORBIDDEN from moving in the mountain world? Based on trends abroad, I think it is/will be increasingly true. Gore-Tex, ice axe, crampons, avalanche transceiver, GPS,… plus a guide on top??? + Trainings in schools, courses?
Many can't afford many things and don't want to. I hear comments about the value of human life – fine, but bottom line money plays a role. The more you have, the more safety and comfort you can ALSO buy in the mountains.
By choosing a subjective goal everyone chooses (knowingly or unknowingly) also the level of risk they are willing to expose themselves to. Is someone "guilty" who has no avalanche gear and was killed by avalanche at danger level 2, while someone with avalanche gear is "justified" because the same happened at level 4??? Is someone shaking on the edge of a precipice below Kočna summit less responsible than an alpinist soloing a route? And someone who freezes below a 1,500 m mountain summit in summer because no extra clothes/alu foil and fog with cold descended?? Is he "guilty"? I DON'T KNOW, can't judge!!!
I encourage knowledge of mountain dangers and use of appropriate gear, but with this post I warn about the distinct and ever-present CHANGE in established standards of what is proper equipment and what is still acceptable risk level. I just hope participants of their adventures consciously know and accept it each time. Here I also express strong opposition to elitism and discrimination like; if you don't have thousands of euros worth of gear, you shouldn't go to the mountains!
Friendly regards and firm steps!

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jax13. 01. 2013 20:28:02
kamenček

Hats off to this. I sign every word from first to last.
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ljubitelj gora13. 01. 2013 20:30:15
Only money still plays a role, like with the multitude of courses, since it's right that courses/schools stay alive on this account with many GV and others teaching youth/older about safe hiking in mountains, gear use, and yeah let someone mention that those with worse gear have no business in mountains is a bit too much.
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panda13. 01. 2013 20:32:22
kamenček: you're right. nasmeh
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strelec195413. 01. 2013 20:43:45
"kamenček" you're right, I fully agree with what's written, similar to how in the valley on the road not everyone has an AUDI Q7 to step out of the car after a crash and "brush the dust off his sleeves" and no one gets mad at those in the "Fiat" who paid for the crash with severe injuries or life.mrk pogled
That's just how life is, money unfortunately rules more and more and differences grow, no better I stop and don't go into other topics that don't belong on this portal.
Regards Marjan
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slavi090213. 01. 2013 21:23:14
@kamenček....I agree with every written word
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trma55514. 01. 2013 09:58:13
I'm a seasoned hillwalker and I agree with kamenček too, people love to judge and I often hear I'm tempting fate when going to such high mountains. My answer is: what about you driving to work every day in an old car? But I support all mountain-related courses, I've done quite a few, from climbing to mountaineering. That's why I'm confident, I manage, I can judge and react properly and no panic grips me. But fear is still present in me, which they say is good. Good luck! Saša
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urbancek14. 01. 2013 10:34:42
@kamenček: Finally! I already thought no one would hit the current state in our mountains so well. You can be "worse" equipped, but know much more about moving in mountains than those with full gear...
And various well-off people with "full" gear are very numerous in mountains nowadays. I notice many such who have gear, but little general knowledge about mountains and movement in mountain world... Many of them will look at you like aliens, maybe judge, even not greet and pre-judge you as complete mountain ignoramusnasmeh.Some will put on crampons at any cost, because they find themselves in snowy high mountains and have them, even if it would go normally without... Gear is actually not used as needed and with head. And this has spread recently in our mountains...
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