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Kokrska and Jezerska Kočna

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Domch21. 07. 2015 09:36:42
On Sunday, first time via Kremžarjeva to Jezerska Kočna. Start from Ravenska Kočna, descent via Dolška škrbina, Grintovec and Mlinarsko sedlo. At the Češka koča, I met an army (Slovenian-English combo) heading to Grintovec. The Kremžarjeva path is interestingly routed, reminds a bit of Kopinškova and the difficulty is in that range. Personally, it is a bit easier for me than Frischaufova, adrenaline at a few spots, that crack under the rock always seems narrower to memežikanje. Quite a few visitors from both sides. Solid view and light wind on top. Stamp in the rock no more, but one in the box for now. Path nicely marked and protections perfect, praise to maintainers.nasmeh
The English are following me.1
First adrenaline section on Kremžarjeva.2
View downwards.3
Before crawling on the ground.4
Already marching to Grintovec.5
Still standing in place.6
Ožina in full size.7
View from the pass towards the summit.8
Now also to the champion.9
Junction.10
View from below Grintovec.11
View from Jezersko.12
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UROS12. 08. 2015 13:35:01
This Saturday my buddy and I climbed the via ferrata to Češka koča and summited both Kočnas and Grintovec.... pictures say it all. Via ferrata to Češka koča is in my opinion the hardest in Slovenia, because it has a very demanding E section in between and it's very, very long .....
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Two years ago at this spot I had to turn back, as there was still too much snow (early June 2013).11
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stankoju9. 08. 2015 15:01:15
Yesterday on Jezerska Kočnanasmeh, started at the cargo cable car or a bit lower at the parking and continued towards Češka koča and already in the forest the first sweaty slopes appearzavijanje z očmi. Then continue via Kremžarjeva to the top, the path itself well protected just lots of scree on the path so caution not amiss.
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Maks Trzin9. 08. 2015 16:16:59
Stanko, conquering peaks in excellent company. Good luck and keep it so cheerful. Greetings from two retirees.
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stankoju9. 08. 2015 16:55:55
Maks, it was nice to meet you two, you're really pleasant people and I hope we meet again in our beautiful mountains. Nice greetings to you too from our team, good luck and safe steps ahead.
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panda10. 08. 2015 07:46:47
Congrats Stanko. Haven't been to Kočna via Kremžarjeva yet. Probably descended the same way, right? How long did it take up and down from Češka koča as a group? Thanks for reply.
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stankoju12. 08. 2015 08:51:12
We took a good nine hours for the whole path up and down with breaks. Best regards Stanko
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panda12. 08. 2015 09:22:03
thanks. Wish you many successful hikes. nasmeh
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planika8219. 08. 2015 22:16:56
In case of linking a tour to Jezerska Kočna and Grintovec (start and end Ravenska Kočna), which direction is preferable: via Kremžarjeva to Kočna, then Grintovec, Mlinarsko sedlo and descent via Frischaufova or reverse?

Thanks.
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jax20. 08. 2015 00:01:47
Generally Kremžarjeva is considered a bit harder, so normally Kremžarjeva up, Frischaufova down. Although - in my opinion it's pretty much the same. If you go up Kremžarjeva, there's a little problem on descent through steep gully above Dolška škrbina, and also need to watch those polished rocks right at the bottom of Frischaufova. If reverse, it's easier of course since going up, but then quite annoying descent on scree-covered slabs in upper part of Kremžarjeva. Small advantage of ascent on Frischaufova is Kočna waits at the end - meaning you can skip it if too tired. If up Kremžarjeva no such option, have to do whole tour anyway. In short, both options have pros and cons.
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planika8221. 08. 2015 05:46:21
Thanks to both for the reply. From what I've read/seen, I assume there is no major difference overall regarding the tour direction.

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Domch21. 08. 2015 15:59:29
Don't recommend Frischaufova down; better pick Kremžarjeva down, much better protected, much less rocks, scree and much less direct.
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ŠpRo2924. 08. 2015 12:19:32
Yesterday via Kremžarjeva to Jezerska Kočna. Except occasional cold wind, all excellent.
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Sorok30. 08. 2015 14:42:06
I decided to conquer both Kočnas, so yesterday headed from lower cargo cable car station to Češka koča and Kočna.
Weather ideal, sunny with some wind easing heat.
On path from lower cable station through forest, still logs from ice storm, but nice "detours" made. Further path mostly OK, except some pulled pegs on secured sections, so careful!
Met many hikers (some multiple timesbig smile) and chatted a bit. Especially glad meeting newlyweds, congratulate again and wish happy joint path, literally and figurativelysmile
Path through forest with ice storm damage1
Thirst2
Junction Grintovec/Kočne3
They went towards Grintovec4
Be light!5
On the fixed cables6
Froelich chimney7
A little more cables8
Famous passage9
Newlyweds - publishing the photo with their permission10
Towards the summit of Jezerska Kočna11
At the summit of JK12
Location of the famous passage from above (arrow)13
Towards Kokrska Kočna14
Zois bellflower and...?15
At the summit of KK16
Storžič, Triglav, Dobrča...17
Kokrsko saddle18
The three highest in KSA - from the left: Jezerska Kočna, Skuta, Grintovec19
Pulled piton on the path between the Kočnas20
Sculpture21
Češka hut from afar...22
...closer...23
...and inside24
Another view upwards25
Evening rays26
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pikpok18. 10. 2015 20:45:07
Today on Jezerska Kočna from Ravenska Kočna. Snow starts already right after Češka Koča and there is more and more up to the top (up to 25-30 cm where drifted). Conditions very varied and technically demanding (dry snow, icy snow, ice, wet rocks) changing from meter to meter. Crampons can come in very handy especially on descent. Pity only for the views which we unfortunately didn't enjoy today.
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velkavrh16. 11. 2015 04:30:07
This title suited the tour best. Goal was to summit Kočna in these conditions. Unfortunately not achieved, because at 2300 m frozen icy snow appeared on the marked path and it was dangerous to continue. Went from Češka Koča at Spodnje Ravne on the usual path up to the hut. Path officially closed due to logging. Yesterday it was possible to go up, since no work. Hut of course closed waiting for spring. Winter room available - stamps inside and logbook. Offers nice shelter for six people. Never seen it before. Then turned towards Kočna on Kremžarjeva path. From start ok. At about 2300 m too much frozen icy snow on path, couldn't bypass so ended tour here and safely back to Umik Žrela.
The usual path to Češka koča na Spodnjih Ravneh also goes over this well-known Lojtrca.1
Češka koča is sadly deserted - waiting for spring when it is crowded.2
It also has a pleasant winter room.3
We are looking up there - towards Kočna.4
So we head up there.5
This will be Kremžarjeva pot to Kočna.6
Soon we start the climbing.7
We bypass this snow.8
The steel cables appear.9
The direction is correct - well marked.10
This is how it looks.11
We climb and climb.12
The path goes here.13
Pitons.14
Section of secured path.15
View of the valley - to the opposite side.16
Silent observer - chamois - at around 2300 m altitude.17
Our winter mountain bird is here too - dressed in winter white - squirrel.18
Somewhere here at 2300 to 2400 m our hike ended. Snow traverses posed too great a risk.19
We would have had to cross this snow. We returned via Umik Žrela, which is a pleasant descent as long as there is no snow.20
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Volk27. 12. 2015 20:27:02
In almost summer atmosphere off-trail from Suhadolnik to bivouac below Kočna. smile

Best regards.
Ascent 'a bit' our own way ...1
Summer warm ...2
Grintovec ...3
Descent ...4
Nice ...5
Path to Kočna ...6
Zg. Dolci ...7
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redbull1. 02. 2016 15:30:28
30.1.16.
Kokrško sedlo-Ovnove čeri-Kokrška and Jezerska Kočna-Grintovec

Conditions for hiking/climbing unique, just weather less favorable. Towards Grintovec denser fog with very strong wind. Tackling such path without two ice axes senseless.


Report:
http://deyangrm.blogspot.si/2016/02/kocni-in-kralj-30116.html
Video:
https://youtu.be/krCyzKDL_JM

Safe

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Ovnove čeri2
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Kokrška Kočna4
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Grintovec6
below the saddle7
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natalia231. 02. 2016 17:11:54
Wonderful tour, but really for experienced hikers and people who know this path, especially because of weather conditions... CONGRATULATIONS and safe steps forward...
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