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| ploha17. 02. 2010 19:02:46 |
Nice pics and congrats. As for comments, you surely knew it'd be like that. LP
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| geppo17. 02. 2010 19:03:52 |
Don't give up, post more!!
LP
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| IgorZlodej17. 02. 2010 19:53:57 |
nurmaln, if it was as you say, you shouldn't have written: "This weekend we treated ourselves to a trip to Vršič and Mala Mojstrovka". That's some kind of misleading. No shame if you had a course, even praiseworthy, but winter mountaineering course includes at least touring gear. Anyway, that pic of tamping through waist-deep snow tells me somewhat differently than written. Is Erjavčeva hut maybe open already, last time I saw this notice: http://www.pzs.si/index.php?stran=Novice&novica_id=4775
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| heinz17. 02. 2010 20:29:20 |
plan.drustvo@siol.net
http.//www.pdjesenice-drustvo.si/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36&Itemid=53
Hope it's correct.
Otherwise apparently (?) SNP open..
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| nurmaln18. 02. 2010 02:16:08 |
Igor, that tamping over the waist is left of the pass (from KG direction) towards Vršič where there's windblown snow on relatively flat section. If there was that much such snow on the slope, you know we couldn't get far even if we wanted to.
Anyway yes, for the weekend it also said closed, but in reality it wasn't. Looks like you just have to call...
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| sebanakis18. 02. 2010 08:14:31 |
I never want to be a smartass, sorry because I didn't know you had a course, we also had one but on Komna and when we did the snowpack profile there were critical first 40cm of new snow, and the next at depth 1.50m, which will slide late spring. Just glad everything ended OK.
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| nurmaln18. 02. 2010 08:48:36 |
And on Komna, did Matica have a course too or someone else?
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| bojann18. 02. 2010 08:56:29 |
nurmaln- in my opinion you're misleading people and then waiting what they will write. You wrote that you went on a HIKE to Mojstrovka. Did you maybe expect different comments if avalanche danger was 4th degree?
That area is as far as I know very dangerous in that regard. Nowhere did you write that you had a course.
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| nurmaln18. 02. 2010 09:27:25 |
Yeah right. Now I know conditions on the terrain change depending on what someone is doing up there. If it's a course it's safe, if it's a trip then in the same conditions it's dangerous.
Either that, or some people here start getting upset without checking what the conditions were.
I didn't want to immediately announce it was a course and that with the guides we checked the snowpack was stable, so no one would take it as "Super safe, everyone rush up!", because the situation can change very quickly.
Otherwise the course was great and I recommend it to everyone without much experience in such conditions.
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| ugn18. 02. 2010 09:57:03 |
yeah, if pop-tv said it's dangerous in the mountains...
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| IgorZlodej18. 02. 2010 12:16:16 |
Arso also only announces the general avalanche danger level that applies to the whole country, locally it can be very different, media just report what's officially published. Anyway, for a trip or course, if there's already a post I'd expect some pics from the top, by the way when uploading pics you can also add or explain something, because a pic can't say everything, although some show that there was also a younger participant on the trip-course, and also that the avalanche transceiver on one of the trip-course participants was incorrectly placed, if it was a course I'd expect at least appropriately correct equipment or maybe the course leader overlooked it, which is of course possible too.
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| nurmaln18. 02. 2010 12:27:30 |
I see it makes no sense 
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| bridnk18. 02. 2010 14:18:20 |
makes no sense, no,
full of armchair experts!!! If you don't go look you won't know what the conditions are, and don't engage in bullshit behind the computer,......
nurmaln, boldly and safely on the path.
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| JusAvgustin18. 02. 2010 16:23:48 |
hehe, why argue? It's his business where and when. They already assessed that the conditions were suitable, otherwise the snow at current temperatures processes faster and bonds with the base. It's true that the Mojstrovkas are extremely exposed and there's no playing there. On the other hand, I think it's not right to accuse people of assessing and describing conditions from their armchair.
and much joy in the hills...
well, maybe this too,
my experience from Monday: when we were climbing in Tamar, two fairly large powder avalanches flew down from the foot of Travnik, so we had to be alert and watch upwards for when the next one would come. It looks like a huge cloud of flour rushing over an ice curtain, looks nice, but it's dangerous.
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| ladko16. 05. 2010 14:56:47 |
Interested in path to Mala Mojstrovka-south, how much snow left and when (approx) Hanz path dry or normally passable?
Best, Lado
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| JusAvgustin21. 05. 2010 10:40:07 |
Path to MM almost fully dry, Hanz to MM dry around mid-July, depends on temps. Some snowfields on path...
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| avrikelj23. 05. 2010 16:10:56 |
If anyone went this weekend over Vratca (to Slemenova Špica or Sleme), I'm curious how Hanz to Mala Mojstrovka looks. Thanks and lp
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| ladko23. 05. 2010 21:42:31 |
Thanks, geolog79
L.P., Lado
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| michael6627. 05. 2010 00:00:33 |
On the way to Little Mojstrovka (southern path) from Vršič towards the saddle that leads to Grebenc, the last 80 elevation meters (the steepest) is a snowfield through which it is not smart to go without crampons. Since we didn't have them with us (I read somewhere above that the path is almost dry), we turned around and went to Nad Šitom glava. Before the snowfield some other hikers turned around and returned to the valley.
From the top of Nad Šitom glava you could see that at the entrance to Hanzova there's still huge snow (and probably will be for some time), in Hanzova itself on the path where at least two snow tongues run, otherwise it looks dry up to the place where it meets the path from Nad Šitom glava.
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| JusAvgustin27. 05. 2010 06:26:21 |
For all northern approaches it holds that they are approached after July 15, if you don't want trouble on the path. Hanzove are dangerous because of snowfields and dilapidation. Although the path is spectacular I would wait a bit more before heading into the rocks...
Regards to all
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