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| opazovalec15. 08. 2016 20:02:15 |
A polished couple from abroad parked like this on the otherwise quite crowded M saddle.... INSOLENCE!
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| skalaš7015. 08. 2016 20:12:57 |
Opazovalec, where is the photo !?
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| Becar15. 08. 2016 20:13:39 |
Interesting. You got a like even before the image appeared. Obviously we're very tense again.
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| grega_z_brega15. 08. 2016 20:31:28 |
it's there, it's possible 
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| miri15. 08. 2016 20:32:23 |
@opazovalec, why would the couple be "polished"?
For me it's "one slut".
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| redbull15. 08. 2016 20:40:57 |
, then another 3 hours to the top
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| Trobec15. 08. 2016 21:21:39 |
Well yeah... quite a few of those "polished couples" don't even go to the top, but walk around the saddle in dress shoes.
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| ZeK15. 08. 2016 22:43:54 |
not too much with that parking.
because we Slovenes are far from following the rules at trailheads.
on the contrary, you often see impossibly parked vehicles, even from our own who are far from seasonal hikers.
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| B215. 08. 2016 23:12:13 |
Yes, but they paid and have every right to walk around the saddle in dress shoes. Otherwise, "impossible parking" is plenty even in cities. Here at least they don't bother anyone, that "clearing" will soon overgrow anyway. And if we look differently: Are there arranged parking lots at the saddle and along the Mangart road?
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| Branee16. 08. 2016 07:11:56 |
As I already said, close those roads to public traffic. That would solve a lot. There wouldn't be reckless drivers so deep in nature and many fewer accidents. Because a large majority of those who try to drive as high as possible to save energy because they are not fit for the mountains they otherwise go to because the roads enable it, would decrease significantly. I dare say there would be quite a few fewer accidents because such people would avoid these paths, and some nature would remain for our descendants. This today, this tourism... has already crapped every other bend
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| Trobec16. 08. 2016 07:17:40 |
Well yeah, locals know some pretty interesting stuff about toll payments...including that the "legal basis" is very shaky. By the way, does anyone know why they stopped charging in Vrata? Maybe some legal issue?
Regarding the rest I agree, there are quite a few more in the cities...well, ultimately there are a lot more people and vehicles there.
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| panda1016. 08. 2016 08:23:22 |
In Vratih apparently they don't collect because the road is state-owned, the parking money was collected by the Municipality. And they couldn't agree or coordinate.
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| julius16. 08. 2016 08:25:25 |
Braneeeee
would you then go on foot to Vrata, to Vršič, to planina Blato and finally to Mangart saddle?
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| blackt16. 08. 2016 09:01:13 |
Those two aren't a polished couple, nor from abroad. But registration is probably cheaper in BiH than in SLO.
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| redbull16. 08. 2016 09:36:40 |
Vrata as said don't collect, to Vršič you can easily get on foot since there are nice forest paths
To M.saddle usually drive up only those who don't like to walk
And a hen can kick me if I'm wrong
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| mailman16. 08. 2016 10:07:55 |
Redbull, you're wrong! Cyclists also arrive! They surely don't belong to the lazybones category!
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| redbull16. 08. 2016 10:10:18 |
Exactly, good that you corrected me. My mistake
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| Trobec16. 08. 2016 11:15:10 |
@Branee, would you then also tear down all mountain huts? Whoever doesn't have enough fitness to go up and down in one day should stay in the valley, or only go halfway. What about ropes and pegs? Probably need to tear those out too, whoever can't reach the top without aids shouldn't go? There would be significantly fewer accidents and much less impact on the environment.
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| lynx16. 08. 2016 11:50:08 |
The solution is more public transport. If a few vans or minibuses ran up and down at intervals, and traffic banned for other motor vehicles, we wouldn't need more space or additional parking arrangements.
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| John16. 08. 2016 12:10:26 |
That's right, lynx. Bravo.
Public transport or seasonal lines absolutely...to Mangart saddle, to Blato pasture, to Vršič pass etc.
Business would definitely be profitable in season, so that can't be an excuse not to implement it yet.
Actually, I'm surprised it's not arranged already. Hard to believe lynx is the first to suggest this.
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