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| djimuzl28. 06. 2018 13:03:50 |
Well, yeah - in "my" times cars certainly existed, other thing are exams for them... 
I used public transport and it was quite nice...
Recently I treated myself again to something like that - first morning bus from Ljubljana to Rateče. Only hiker on it - there and back...
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| Marko Torelli28. 06. 2018 13:35:20 |
Nobody complains about Tamar anymore that the road is closed; the valley has gained, crowds of hikers and cyclists enjoy without swallowing dust.
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| panda28. 06. 2018 14:38:59 |
I'll give you partial right. If you go to Ponce or Jalovec then time extends by 1 hour there and another 1 hour back. 
A bike or foot trip from Planica to hut in Tamar is a pleasure.
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| tinky28. 06. 2018 14:44:35 |
Marko, how can you compare that? From Planica to Tamar about 50 elevation meters, from Bohinj to Planina Blato more than 600.
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| sirt128. 06. 2018 15:02:48 |
djimuzl - yes, today wallets are much thinner, but what's inside is worth much more!
When we were all millionaires, a salary of 3 million was worth 500 marks or 250€!
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| Enka28. 06. 2018 16:57:42 |
I'd find it quite sympathetic, but under the condition that there was an alternative parking relatively cheap in Stara Fužina. This one in Srednja vas is (too) far if not going up Fri-Sun or if you're an early riser and 5:30 is already late...
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| Marko Torelli28. 06. 2018 19:17:18 |
Tinky, they are a good 200m, but hey, no big deal in that. Panda... so what, enjoy 2 more hours... It's really funny... that the debate is about money... sirt... I agree... on average we are all much richer... we just have more goods available and think we need them urgently... anyway I know a mountaineer with a 50,000 euro car... but only grumbles how to avoid parking fees and complains how expensive everything is in the huts...
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| Anansie28. 06. 2018 19:51:01 |
Marko, just because of such mountaineers I support charging parking fees, because he'd go "to the mountains" by car. Let him go on foot as far as possible and carry that beer he won't pay dearly for in the hut ... Regarding the road to Tamar when going from Jalovec, it's really long, but no choice and YOU GO
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| djimuzl28. 06. 2018 20:12:24 |
Sirt, congrats. You find your favorite topic everywhere, even where there's none..
But since you've calculated everything nicely - how many marks did parking in Stara Fužina cost back in "those" times?
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| dprapr28. 06. 2018 20:17:10 |
Closing valleys of course is no solution to the problem.
"I've been through" all three variants, from foot access, car access and now foot again. Hard to go back once you're used to the comfy option, although the first one wasn't bad either. Mainly because you could "crash" anywhere or camp. And not just in Tamar, everywhere. When it became mass, the end of all good things.
Now they will have to start looking abroad if they want to make order, so it's good for both, those advocating foot option and those for as far as possible by car.
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| ljubitelj gora28. 06. 2018 20:35:22 |
In the Carnic Alps I've never paid toll anywhere, nor parking. Not to mention the maintenance of mountain roads, arranged parking lots and signposts, mostly like that. There are prohibition signs and barriers and I always respect that, but driving high with the car. If they want ecology at pl.Blato then they should CLOSE the road, but the point is they collected too little, most cars were already up before 7 when there was no one down to collect 10 euros and also in autumn there were many cars when they didn't collect anymore. Whatever up to seven you can reach from other starting points, 1-2 hours more walking.
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| mirank28. 06. 2018 22:02:37 |
Exactly like that also in Dolomites they have lots of passes over 2000m but nowhere do you have to pay anything like the practice on Vršič (state road ). No mistake-I have nothing against charging a euro or so for parking and access roads, just there must be some measure. For example in Trentino Alto Adige which imo is best arranged and also most expensive, parking at arranged lot at Dolomitenhof for one day 5eur. Parking at hotel on Kreuzberg pass-3eur whole day, elsewhere I haven't paid anywhere so far, though I'm often there...
About outrageously expensive toll and parking from Misurina up (but also Three Peaks!!) I won't waste words . And yes toll and parking also at Picco di Vallandro, and more further west.
We'll go even more to Western Julian Alps, Carnic Alps and also Dolomites, greedy local sheriffs keep going....
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| Marko Torelli28. 06. 2018 22:10:02 |
Once something is done, we accept it and all gladly use it, even if back then they'd built a lift to Kredarica and ski slopes around, today we'd all nicely accept it, but we can still be extremely glad that there's no asphalt pulled to every hill and we don't walk under cable car ropes like in many places in Dolomites. Ehh, nothing ever suits us.
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| B228. 06. 2018 23:11:40 |
Such good transport and cheap connections as in Bohinj there are damn few in Slovenia. Train from Ljubljana to Bohinjska Bistrica (return ticket) 14.34 EUR and bus Bohinjska Bistrica - Bohinj Lake 2 EUR one way. From Bohinj Lake bus station to Stara Fužina is just twenty minutes "walk". Really don't know why such polemics around that toll. Here we stumble over ecology, air pollution and such, but of course we ourselves wouldn't follow those views... Nothing will change that way. You go to mountains to walk. In Bohinj cars are parked everywhere, even on private plots where municipal inspectors have no business...And if we go to mountains really no need to seek comfort in transport and drive as high as possible... Calculation is such that from Ljubljana to Bohinj and back we spend about 30 EUR fuel, public transport costs us, I wrote before how much and that with all these excellent train and bus connections. Of course all Bohinj tolls and barriers fall away. If everyone stuck to public transport, we'd quickly "screw" the Bohinj municipal collectors...
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| jax29. 06. 2018 07:16:40 |
You go to the mountains so that you'll walk.
In the mountains, not in the valley.
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| turbo29. 06. 2018 07:29:43 |
B2
Everything you wrote is true. Only in that we'd ... collectors I doubt, since everywhere you can nicely charge entrance for viewing natural sights
Oh, one more thing. For Škednjovec, say, which train in the morning do I need to catch to get further connections to Blato in Bohinjska Bistrica and start the tour no later than 7am
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| magroman29. 06. 2018 08:49:02 |
I don't see the problem in the barrier and collecting parking fee, but in its price. Isn't it a bit too high?
When a parking garage and hostess with a stamp await me at Planina Blato, I'll be completely quiet. Hehe
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| peter229. 06. 2018 09:54:27 |
Stop already hammering on this topic.
We all know well that in summer there's too much hustle in Bohinj and it causes bad mood among local population as well as tourists, day-trippers and hikers.
Show some tolerance to the effort of tourism and municipal workers in their endeavor to calm the traffic.
Best
Peter S.
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| Janiel7429. 06. 2018 13:06:19 |
"Show some tolerance to the efforts of tourism and municipal workers in their endeavor to CALM the traffic." - emphasizing the endeavor to CALM the traffic....
Exactly so peter2...that's why I'll avoid Bohinj even more from afar than until now. Rather go to beautiful Karnic Alps, Western Julian Alps and Dolomites.
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| Janiel7429. 06. 2018 13:08:10 |
Turbo:
Yes that's right. To the mountains one goes early...I'm really curious if they offer transport to the starting point also at e.g. 4.00 and 5.00....
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