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| Kafetarca16. 09. 2023 23:41:21 |
These are actually good arguments that should be highlighted more often.
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| Kafetarca16. 09. 2023 23:41:25 |
These are actually good arguments that should be highlighted more often.
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| asdf17. 09. 2023 02:48:06 |
Imagine if they introduced an entry fee to a certain part of the city in Ljubljana for non-residents, while all residents would have it for free? What whining there would be from the residents of municipalities like Jezersko and Bohinj.
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| ljubitelj gora2. 10. 2023 13:55:02 |
Soon after Mojstrana there will apparently be a barrier next year. What additional parking lots haven't they arranged except for the parking lots in Mojstrana which are mostly paid and there are quite a few of them. Strangely, hundreds of cars parked in Mojstrana won't bother them.
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| Jusk10. 10. 2023 17:38:36 |
The barrier is already installed
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| Fapo10. 10. 2023 21:02:30 |
Does that mean it's already in use or just standing there?
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| michael6611. 10. 2023 05:44:16 |
On Saturday it was open all the time, although the sign said it was fully occupied.
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| Daaam11. 10. 2023 08:31:08 |
A fresh one to gnaw on  it's actually for Vršič, but since barriers are in play 
"Barriers will be placed in the Kranjska Gora and Trenta area. After their establishment, transit traffic over the pass will be free, but the passage time between the barriers will be limited. The number of parking spaces at Vršič pass will also be limited. With higher parking fees, we will encourage visitors to use public transport, which will be quite frequent"
https://www.gore-ljudje.si/Kategorije/Novosti/prepre%c4%8dili-vsakoletni
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| DVas11. 10. 2023 08:54:48 |
Public transport will again be like e.g. in Bohinj where you arrive at the Blato trailhead only around 8 am, which is significantly too late.
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| Jusk11. 10. 2023 09:01:22 |
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| trentarski11. 10. 2023 12:06:29 |
Toll booth lady Bratušek 1 
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| redbull12. 10. 2023 06:28:31 |
Otherwise one less valley, when folk will study where not to turn  Nothing bad, I think there are enough other beautiful valleys. For the north face of Triglav though, I think it's no big deal to get there
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| DVas12. 10. 2023 14:33:43 |
Actually the whole situation around parking, access with public transport, overnight stays and everything related to hiking in general is adapting to someone else and not to us, classic hikers who are at the starting point already at four in the morning and so on. Everything is becoming boutique and tailored more and more to the foreign guest who will sleep long, after breakfast in the hotel take some short excursion and leave a substantial amount of money in the place in a short time while staying there. The whole system adapts to such a guest while I have the feeling that we others are more and more pushed to the sidetrack. Maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell.
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| Trobec12. 10. 2023 15:14:59 |
@DVas, exactly, purely everything is just about capitalism and how to collect more money.
Also sleeping in huts. PZS brags so much about the electronic reservation system which is, mildly put, catastrophic. Nice weekend coming up and local guest - mountaineer who's been going to the mountains all his life, would go sleep in the mountains... but gets back smooth "f*** off, we're already fully booked a month in advance with foreigners".
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| dprapr12. 10. 2023 16:21:38 |
In the valley only some wind turbines are missing, about 200m high, with 30x30 bases, like they plan on the Pohorje ridge, then the picture will be complete.
I looked the other day from the ridge at Plocken Pass, which is spoiled by a “beautiful wind turbine”. Looks like these toll booths will be the least concern for our nature protectors and mountaineers in the future.
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| mirank12. 10. 2023 19:58:21 |
They should add barbed wire too, I haven't been there since 92 anyway and obviously won't go anymore Elsewhere they are more willing to accept everyone who comes.
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| lijaneja21. 10. 2023 10:05:54 |
And how about the barrier - with the passability of the road to Kot valley? (clearing wood after windthrow)
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| kozuc21. 10. 2023 11:45:37 |
The road to Kot is normally drivable, only the sign is still there.
That's up to the individual whether they follow the sign or not.
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| j.24. 11. 2023 10:47:24 |
Maybe someone knows a link from TNP with list of permitted parking lots in Vrata valley (besides Peričnik, Črlovec and at the end, of course). Saw it somewhere once, but can't find it anymore...
Thanks!
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