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Road to Vrata

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dprapr24. 11. 2023 16:06:40
Yes, that's at the junction to Za Cmirom. Cca 1 km away from the bivouac junction. At least in October it was like that. One sign still at Črlovec and one at the start of the valley.
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j.24. 11. 2023 16:41:56
Thanks everyone! So:
- (somewhere at the start of the valley ?)
- Peričnik
- Črlovec
- Poldov (or) Turkov rovt
- A little before Aljažev dom
I just found on the TNP website "TNP Management Plan 2016-2025" where in appendix 14 two "marked parking lots" are drawn (probably Peričnik and Aljažev dom) and from Peričnik onwards three more "partly arranged parking lots".

The image quality matches the quality of the content on the TNP website mrk pogled
Parking areas in TNP (Source: tnp.si)1
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palček plezalček24. 11. 2023 17:17:49
j., on the TNP page there's also a map, attaching its link, but you have to zoom it in a lot for the parking lots to show (adding pics too):

https://www.tnp.si/sl/obisk-parka/informacije-za-obiskovalce/razmere-v-parku/#bm=osm%3Asummer&cat=Closure,Notice&filter=r-fullyTranslatedLangus-,s-condition-1&fu=1&zc=16,13.84963,46.41281
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j.24. 11. 2023 17:31:53
Little one, hello! I already checked the Current Conditions TNP page before, but didn't see parking at either rovt (Poldov / Turkov) despite max zoom. Missing in your attached pics too.. zmeden

Anyway many thanks! We'll keep digging, if not otherwise then on foot to Vrata, like 40 years ago velik nasmeh

p.s.: a while ago I sent you ZS, if the content might interest you...
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dprapr24. 11. 2023 17:39:34
Interesting, but that parking before the turnoff to Za Cmirom isn't marked. Despite the posted parking sign. Anyway for rangers probably the sign counts, not the map.
What about that parking above Martuljek, before Ingot. Has anyone had parking issues there?
Since no sign there either, we've often left cars there no problem.
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bumbi24. 11. 2023 19:49:30
In summer I was there twice. No warnings or fines to be seen.
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Jernej96815. 06. 2024 07:41:55
From today daily parking at Aljažev dom is 25 eur/day. Authorities justify it with free bus to Vrata valley in summer season from 15.6. to 15.9.
What about outside that season, no bus? How much will parking be then?
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Daaam15. 06. 2024 13:10:54
At 4am van then every hour 1 (one) bus velik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmehvelik nasmeh to get just hikers "sustainably" to Vrata you'd need min 10 buses by 8amcool
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Pero_2416. 06. 2024 20:27:58
If I decide to go, parking will cost me about as much as fuel or gas from Vrhnika in my case + south toll.
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Po Hodnik16. 06. 2024 21:59:47
@Pero: I'm from the area, we can go together nasmeh
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Planinka9217. 06. 2024 16:50:40
Is this already in effect in Vrata? 25€ per day?
On FB I saw it won't be in effect for another 14 days and barrier is up.
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turbo17. 06. 2024 17:32:49
From Saturday onwards it's 25€ daily:
https://parking.kranjska-gora.si/parkirisca/mojstrana/
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BT8817. 06. 2024 18:58:02
Personally it doesn't bother me, because I don't know who even goes to Vrata anymore??
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Planinka9217. 06. 2024 19:05:01
@turbo
I know that, I've read it all... but actually it shouldn't apply yet for 14 days... until 1.7. mežikanje
Also for parking at the "starting point" for Oltar etc., they were just handing out warnings.
@BT88
Who goes to Vrata? Judging by the amount of sheet metal there, quite a few jezik
But many won't go anymore..
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bongo17. 06. 2024 19:05:08
BT88: https://www.hribi.net/izhodisce/aljazev_dom_v_vratih/46.4128/13.8466#google_vignette

Plus alpine routes. But it's typically little-Slovenian, that if say you have no interest, then it clearly doesn't bother you. You can stay silent in this case too, it'll be very welcome.
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brankobr17. 06. 2024 19:58:44
Wasn't it 2.5 € a couple of years ago?
First bus from Mojstrana leaves too late. At that hour I should already be in Vrata. At least for us "early birds"
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brankobr17. 06. 2024 19:58:48
Wasn't it 2.5 € a couple of years ago?
First bus from Mojstrana leaves too late. At that hour I should already be in Vrata. At least for us "early birds"
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brankobr17. 06. 2024 19:58:52
Wasn't it 2.5 € a couple of years ago?
First bus from Mojstrana leaves too late. At that hour I should already be in Vrata. At least for us "early birds"
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turbo17. 06. 2024 20:06:08
A few years ago I drove up to Vršič early in the morning. While changing shoes a warden comes to me and says I need to pay, which I knew and expected. I greet him and count out the change, he looks at me like I'm a wonder of God. And says: "Aren't you going to argue with me and get upset?" I asked why, he said everyone curses him out locally about what he's doing. I replied that I'd gladly pay that small change (it was for a coffee, maybe two) and drive home normally after the tour, without fear of being blocked in and the pass being impassable due to buses stuck in the middle of the road between left and right parked cars. The guy really couldn't believe that paying that little bit wasn't a bother for me, quite the opposite. No wonder I won't forget that incident easily. If it were like that today at Blato and in Vrata, and elsewhere, everything would be fine and proper. But since the noble gentlemen and ladies who perform the function of mayors and mayoresses have lost their compass, let them do sustainable tourism, I've been doing it for years and hope it lasts. And regarding parking fees: free, kostenlos, gratuito, for free, zdarma nasmeh
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asdf17. 06. 2024 20:10:27
I'm curious what the geniuses will do when due to this "traffic calming" the parking lots in Mojstrana are totally occupied. Probably raise the parking fee there too.
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