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| andrejk7712. 08. 2024 19:52:13 |
A bit of a comment on "traffic regulation" in Vrata:
- parking meter in Vrata accepts only one of the 3 cards we had (NLB), SKB, Revolut doesn't work
- easypark works... if you have signal, which there isn't, and you pay them commission too
- can't pay with cash, even if warden is there, he can't collect parking fee (as before)
- lower parking lot is closed
- everywhere some bollards with tape closing niches, looks very ...
- bus is free, runs every hour, but still need to pay for parking (10 eur)
- on Saturday at 6:00 wardens diligently walk around
- in the afternoon cars in all holes in Vrata
In short: if someone regulates something, it's the municipality's budget (and nothing else)
Well, from me except parking fee they get nothing. I rather had beer elsewhere. Somehow we need to express protest and reward citizens for super mayor. At the same time I'm calling others to the same behavior.
Overall I think it doesn't pay off for the municipality, fewer visits, less spending, and they have costs with barriers, bus etc..
Result: worse picture in Vrata, angry and frustrated people in front of parking meter, unregulated. In my opinion very bad, also from the state's side that yielded to municipal pressures.
Municipalities have actually become enemies of people and citizens.
Hope I saved someone some annoyance with this, maybe someone will think about it anyway??
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| tvodop12. 08. 2024 20:05:00 |
Andrej super comment. Gang that only wants money does almost nothing
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| jax12. 08. 2024 20:50:07 |
A propos that post on PZS website. That post comes from the fact, which is briefly mentioned in it, but PZS doesn't hang it on big bell. Namely, that a petition was addressed to PZS leadership from almost all heads of Slovenian alpine sections. And of course PZS had to respond at least symbolically, because they can't ignore that AO are part of mountaineering societies and ultimately PZS represents alpinists too. And of course, AOs addressed PZS with completely justified accusations that such access regulation model clearly favors wealthier foreign visitors and leaves demanding mountain goers high and dry. And some facts were mentioned that are almost tragicomic, yet true - like that a visitor with PZS membership card is entitled to discount on parking in Paklenica (yes, Paklenica), but in Vrata gets just the middle finger.
So yes, I think it's quite right that the debate sharpens, because we can't ignore that all PZS initiatives in style "by public transport to mountains" (where at press conference also participated rep of crowned riffraff from Bohinj Tourism) address only smaller part of Slovenian mountains visitors. But PZS represents all. Also demanding ones and alpinists too.
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| Filip_Culjak24. 10. 2024 19:14:00 |
How is the current situation with the parking fees in Vrata if anyone knows? Can you park for free at the starting point for Za Cmirom, the starting point for Rokave or at Črlovcu?
Since there is currently no bus.
I would be very grateful for an answer.
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| panda25. 10. 2024 11:19:19 |
Finally 
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| lijaneja25. 10. 2024 11:27:14 |
Yes, and next year another hut will be for sale...
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| korl25. 10. 2024 13:11:34 |
... which some honest tycoon will then buy and turn into Triglav Mountain Resort 
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| dragonar25. 10. 2024 21:07:52 |
It's interesting, in Vrata the "winter" tariff has been lowered to 15€, hourly tariff also possible: first hour 1.2€, subsequent ones at 2€. Bohinj folks won't hear of introducing 24h instead of daily.
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| dprapr25. 10. 2024 21:26:16 |
I don't know why you're still complaining, since you have free transport to Vrata. 
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| kajla26. 10. 2024 17:54:12 |
If I know how to calculate, 7+50+50+50 = 157, that many people can arrive in Vrata by 10 a.m. with free transport. Market niche for locals offering horse-drawn carriage transport, as in the times of the movie In the Kingdom of Zlatorog.
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| mizakaši28. 10. 2024 09:14:33 |
This is ordinary Slovenian theft. Just like in all areas, local communities have smelled the money and are introducing usurious parking fees and usurious prices for viewing sights, which are a public good. There is no excuse for this usury here. I advise all these big shots to visit the Carnic Alps, Dolomites, and finally nearby Zajezera, to see the arrangement of parking lots, especially parking prices, if they already compare with similar things in Slovenia, where usury always gains more momentum under the pretext of nature protection. As said, one needs to look to developed Europe. From the increasingly backward Balkans...
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| ljubitelj gora28. 10. 2024 13:29:57 |
The worst is to ignore and go elsewhere to the mountains; they will do as they please and whatever comes to mind. Yesterday in the car I listened to the radio; someone was talking (topic a bit different) that you have to bang on the table and if you can't agree nicely then ugly words will fall too. We need to sit together and find a solution good for all. If they don't want to talk then we need to "force" them into it. Until there is agreement among all there shouldn't be barriers or parking meters at all. Conditionally only during the tourist season July, August.
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| dprapr28. 10. 2024 14:01:53 |
“The worst is to ignore and go to other mountains, they will do as they please.”
And what else remains for us? To pay and accept usurious prices? Only that will sober them if they won't have anyone to charge. Foreigners will soon withdraw from such points too. Unless our standard falls so much, which is happening, that it will be pocket change for them.
We can be grateful that borders are at least normally passable now. Sometimes it wasn't and I fear we're returning there.
For “comparable” prices let them look at Austria besides Italy. They say elsewhere there's no “free” transport. Who wanted it anyway. Let those who invented it ride public transport.
And the petition won't solve anything either. Especially if ours don't submit it.
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| ednpač29. 10. 2024 16:39:19 |
In Triglav National Park the laws mentioned in the petition don't apply at all...
Regarding state roads
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| brett30. 10. 2024 08:38:07 |
Question:
until Monday 4.11. the barriers are up. Is the parking fee collected at the end of the road until then or is parking free?
Thanks for info!
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| Trobec30. 10. 2024 09:55:17 |
I don't fully agree that nothing can be achieved.
As far as I remember the "Maribor way" of solving speed cameras issue was quite successful. 
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| _sandra_30. 10. 2024 10:51:29 |
How do you mean laws don't apply? So if police stops me in TNP area or municipal warden catches me on radar, law doesn't apply? Take a look at Bohinj, by the lake speed limit 30 km/h (at the bridge) and law applies for sure, no worry
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