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| dprapr12. 08. 2024 11:32:30 |
They said on Friday's radio show that we will have to come to terms with it. Maybe they also meant flat earth. 
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| turbo12. 08. 2024 11:42:17 |
Three weeks ago, Passo Pordoi, from Arabba up, first parking on the right, free. Also several days, as needed. Next day Passo Gardena, on both sides of the pass, a bit below, along the road a bunch of small gravel parking lots, gratis of course. Last week around Kitzbuhel, Wilder Kaiser range, all passes I cycled over, everywhere free. I know Friuli pretty well, like this from memory, quickly, Zajzero is paid, don't remember elsewhere. A couple valleys in Friulian Dolomites too, but even there a few years ago only in season and for some time only on weekends.
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| mirank12. 08. 2024 12:38:33 |
Paid parking also at the starting point for Jerebica from It. What locals think about it nicely illustrates the inscription on the price board-thieves, robbers or crooks would be in our language
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| megalodon12. 08. 2024 12:38:39 |
Usually I don't get into such debates, this time I'll add my pot.
As the previous wrote, I can confirm from first hand (not hear-say). Three years in a row in Dolomites 5 days each, every day to some mountains, paid parking only 1X! And that only because in the morning I wasn't paying attention to the slightly lower free parking, which would extend our hike by about 5 min.
No problem for me to pay parking e.g. most often in Završnica or at Prtovč (where they've raised prices a bit lately  ), but e.g. 20 € for Vogar and 25 € for Vrata  .
And also, if I already pay (although I honestly pay taxes to the state and municipality and something could be financed from that) I think the parking should at least have WC and drinking water (which e.g. Završnica parking has, praise).
Hawk, I was talking
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| Trobec12. 08. 2024 13:04:22 |
Not even Zajzera is paid, checked on Saturday. At the customs there's a big red sign "chiuso" (closed).
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| Lukito12. 08. 2024 13:20:25 |
Parking lots at Polish/Czech border - Karkonosze ridge, from Polish side:
Entry to national park 2EUR (locals show ID and it's free).
Parking fee 4-8EUR per day, or about 25-50 cents per hour, depending on where.
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| andrejk7712. 08. 2024 19:52:13 |
A bit of a comment on "traffic regulation" in Vrata:
- parking meter in Vrata accepts only one of the 3 cards we had (NLB), SKB, Revolut doesn't work
- easypark works... if you have signal, which there isn't, and you pay them commission too
- can't pay with cash, even if warden is there, he can't collect parking fee (as before)
- lower parking lot is closed
- everywhere some bollards with tape closing niches, looks very ...
- bus is free, runs every hour, but still need to pay for parking (10 eur)
- on Saturday at 6:00 wardens diligently walk around
- in the afternoon cars in all holes in Vrata
In short: if someone regulates something, it's the municipality's budget (and nothing else)
Well, from me except parking fee they get nothing. I rather had beer elsewhere. Somehow we need to express protest and reward citizens for super mayor. At the same time I'm calling others to the same behavior.
Overall I think it doesn't pay off for the municipality, fewer visits, less spending, and they have costs with barriers, bus etc..
Result: worse picture in Vrata, angry and frustrated people in front of parking meter, unregulated. In my opinion very bad, also from the state's side that yielded to municipal pressures.
Municipalities have actually become enemies of people and citizens.
Hope I saved someone some annoyance with this, maybe someone will think about it anyway??
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| tvodop12. 08. 2024 20:05:00 |
Andrej super comment. Gang that only wants money does almost nothing
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| jax12. 08. 2024 20:50:07 |
A propos that post on PZS website. That post comes from the fact, which is briefly mentioned in it, but PZS doesn't hang it on big bell. Namely, that a petition was addressed to PZS leadership from almost all heads of Slovenian alpine sections. And of course PZS had to respond at least symbolically, because they can't ignore that AO are part of mountaineering societies and ultimately PZS represents alpinists too. And of course, AOs addressed PZS with completely justified accusations that such access regulation model clearly favors wealthier foreign visitors and leaves demanding mountain goers high and dry. And some facts were mentioned that are almost tragicomic, yet true - like that a visitor with PZS membership card is entitled to discount on parking in Paklenica (yes, Paklenica), but in Vrata gets just the middle finger.
So yes, I think it's quite right that the debate sharpens, because we can't ignore that all PZS initiatives in style "by public transport to mountains" (where at press conference also participated rep of crowned riffraff from Bohinj Tourism) address only smaller part of Slovenian mountains visitors. But PZS represents all. Also demanding ones and alpinists too.
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| Filip_Culjak24. 10. 2024 19:14:00 |
How is the current situation with the parking fees in Vrata if anyone knows? Can you park for free at the starting point for Za Cmirom, the starting point for Rokave or at Črlovcu?
Since there is currently no bus.
I would be very grateful for an answer.
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| panda25. 10. 2024 11:19:19 |
Finally 
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| lijaneja25. 10. 2024 11:27:14 |
Yes, and next year another hut will be for sale...
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| korl25. 10. 2024 13:11:34 |
... which some honest tycoon will then buy and turn into Triglav Mountain Resort
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| dragonar25. 10. 2024 21:07:52 |
It's interesting, in Vrata the "winter" tariff has been lowered to 15€, hourly tariff also possible: first hour 1.2€, subsequent ones at 2€. Bohinj folks won't hear of introducing 24h instead of daily.
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| dprapr25. 10. 2024 21:26:16 |
I don't know why you're still complaining, since you have free transport to Vrata.
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| turbo25. 10. 2024 21:37:09 |
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| kajla26. 10. 2024 17:54:12 |
If I know how to calculate, 7+50+50+50 = 157, that many people can arrive in Vrata by 10 a.m. with free transport. Market niche for locals offering horse-drawn carriage transport, as in the times of the movie In the Kingdom of Zlatorog.
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