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| mirank14. 02. 2025 17:02:21 |
That show I watched some time ago. Instead of limiting accesses, they should rather introduce paid rescue from the mountains or mandatory insurance. Insurers will make a selection of whom they will reimburse the costs , reduced safety would deter many. Meanwhile tourist organizations promote safe tours to our mountains. If you watched Tarča yesterday, Černuta was quite good to me when he partially described how it goes. About PZS and TNP there's no point wasting words
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| barbon14. 02. 2025 17:52:11 |
Maybe it would be best to cancel the PZS membership fee and boycott it if the association doesn't negotiate on behalf of mountaineers.
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| lijaneja14. 02. 2025 18:15:43 |
Drago, when I was young and could easily walk to the mountain starting points, there were no access barriers anywhere, now when knees are creaking I have to walk already from KB, Kurje vasi, BB, Mojstrane...
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| turbo14. 02. 2025 18:24:15 |
Tone,
you know how it goes. At first you want to but have no one, then you want and have someone but no place. Then you want, have someone and place but no mood. Then they put up the barrier and it doesn't matter what, who or where you want, whether in mood or not 
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| dprapr14. 02. 2025 18:43:52 |
Eh, the barrier is no obstacle. For us who have time, it's a few km up or down. Or go elsewhere.
Bojan, now it's just a question where you would stick it for free.
The car, no mistake. 
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| jprim14. 02. 2025 20:16:42 |
Dear male world, on Valentine's day you're mulling over issues that cannot be influenced from our side like that.
LP!
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| dprapr14. 02. 2025 20:42:21 |
Valentine's day was also imposed on us, similar to the barrier in Mojstrana. Both empty our pockets if we obey those who offer it to us.
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| jprim14. 02. 2025 21:38:36 |
Yes, it's true, to us dear little Slovenians everything is imposed like that.
LP!
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| piotr15. 02. 2025 05:14:35 |
Nowadays Freedom costs...
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| Daaam15. 02. 2025 10:05:28 |
Let's be realistic. More than national level politics, this is the result of decisions by local sheriffs..
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| bohincm15. 02. 2025 10:22:39 |
They try to impose many things on us. Especially traders and lately especially municipalities with parking fees for entering nature, which is nobody's property, not even municipal officials', but everyone's right. Under the pretext of environmental protection and "all for your safety" they have so far accepted all decisions that do not serve the people but introduce control. All imposed parking fees are just a commercial offer that you can accept or not. True, by refusing payment we extend the path to the starting point or just don't go where profit is at the expense of hikers who just want to enjoy nature. Perhaps we lack unity to succeed, because if there was no money in the cash registers the other side would be forced to lower or withdraw the usurious prices. In Bohinj there is such an example of parking for entering Voje valley. Two years ago my wife and I after returning from Krsteniški Stog paid at the end of Stara Fužina 27 euros for 9 hours parking. Bohinj thus gets main tourism profit from parking fees. Probably we were there for the last time. Sad that in the end we are all people of the same country, only that these same citizens on one side do everything for that monthly income because "they're just doing their job" and are like soulless shells....There are always bright spots, there are still locations where mountaineers are still welcome. Lp, Matjaž
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| asdf15. 02. 2025 11:15:09 |
Daaam: In the case of Vrata and Vršič local sheriffs couldn't carry this out without state support.
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| dprapr15. 02. 2025 11:20:12 |
“Let's be realistic. More than national-level politics, this is a consequence of local sheriffs' decisions.”
Matija, do you really believe it has no influence? Who elects and appoints “sheriffs” of important municipalities in Slovenia?
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| julius15. 02. 2025 14:49:45 |
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| asdf15. 02. 2025 15:57:56 |
Safely to the mountains with maPZS, which occasionally stops drawing trails for no reason.
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| stefanb15. 02. 2025 16:01:37 |
PZS unites 298 associations (mountaineering societies, clubs, GRS stations) with 63,500 individual members (2023).
source: https://www.pzs.si/vsebina.php?pid=1
When this sponsorship part ends, maybe then we get a QR code in exchange for the membership fee…
for discount on barriers.
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| julius15. 02. 2025 16:27:50 |
PZS had its "high" representatives at all these agreements that chafe us now.
In principle they agreed with everything.
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| Daaam16. 02. 2025 08:22:04 |
Drago and others. Of course they have state support no matter who's in power. They'd probably have the same support if these measures were less "draconian". Already two/three years ago when it hinted what would happen, I agreed order was needed but I feared exactly this would happen, which is now. And state would likely support local sheriffs too if they managed visits just by relieving most visited spots and not tailoring access to tourists (whom we still persistently invite despite all chaos) local privileged and those going "once a year to Triglav". If they have balls let them leave ramps and counters, at parking fee put one 0 (zero) side and that's it. Let them collect that difference so as visitor you don't feel sheared like a sheep but satisfied and full come home. That's the art. Tourist base wanting to experience Slovenia once isn't infinite. Somehow that unfortunate/stupid statement repeats in my head come to Bled in autumn when no tourists... then corona came.
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| dprapr16. 02. 2025 11:17:19 |
I didn't mean state support, which we know what it's like. Dependent on current government.
Mainly about politics selecting mayors. Can't influence much here except by boycotting services. But locals can, to whom they offer reliefs. And it suits them if less traffic.
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| barbon19. 02. 2025 17:51:45 |
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