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Snakes in Slovenia

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Nanook16. 05. 2012 10:11:09
The Department of Biology is opposite the ZOO in Ljubljana. The address is Večna pot 111. I don't quite remember which one B4 is right now, but all lecture halls are together.
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CarpeDiem24716. 05. 2012 10:31:30
I find the topic interesting, I'll probably attend the lecture! nasmeh
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Branee16. 05. 2012 11:01:44
Some tips if a venomous snake bites you..

Clean the wound with water and a clean cloth by wiping in the direction away from the wound; first squeeze the bite site to express the poison (of course do this immediately, not after 5 minutes). Never wipe the cloth over the bite site but to the side!

Apply a light compression bandage and get to the doctor as soon as possible. You must know that when the body is warm the venoms enter the "circulation" faster and act quicker, so in case of a bite don't plan a hike to the top and then to the doctor..

One more well-intentioned tip is to remember the snake (color, some other details) otherwise this advice doesn't matter as much here as elsewhere where venomous snakes are much more numerous..
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bojann16. 05. 2012 11:56:24
I'm wondering if a snake bites you when you still have 2-3 hours to walk to the car. What then? Otherwise I hate them! I don't like seeing them even in pictures, let alone live. I'd be happiest if they were just exterminated. The most horrible is that you often can't even see it on the path. YUCK!!
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BT8816. 05. 2012 13:18:39
Bojann, stay in the living room and there are still chances it will get you. We must know that animals are at home there and we disturb their living space. About extermination I wouldn't even comment - admin, get to work!velik nasmeh
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ljubitelj gora16. 05. 2012 13:48:48
A snake won't do almost anything to you, here they are up to 80 cm long and no snake has attacked me yet, it just nicely retreated, I've encountered them in the greenhouse, around the house among cypresses, on meadows, in the forest, the most common are adders, nose-horned vipers, Orsini's vipers, smooth snakes, and black adder is also found, last year I saw it for the first time in my life, all this at home on the estate. My father was bitten by small adders too when he went to pick young lettuce many years ago, now there's a larger field there and I go there with special caution because every year I meet a snake. And like this, when every year we clear the grass and almost a meter-long nose-horned viper is found inside, the family scatters as if they saw a dinosaur, I stay there and wait for the snake to retreat, snakes should live too... I haven't killed any and never will velik nasmeh there was once an exhibition of snakes, spiders in BTC and I went to see them and when I told my family what I went to see they got goosebumps straight up.
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miri16. 05. 2012 15:09:51
It would bite the one who kills them if necessary.jezen
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wolphgang16. 05. 2012 17:05:34
Typical human hypocrisy. A fellow human they would strangle for a trifle, but don't touch snakes... bla bla
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Okmodko16. 05. 2012 18:16:15
Professional description of a human, doctor Wolphgang. Really there are nonsensical sentences on this forum. Otherwise, if any of our snakes bites you, no need to go for antivenom. Except if it's Orsini's viper. If an adder bites you it's like 10 or 15 bee stings. And no medicine needed. So as you see Wolphgang the snake venom of our snakes is as poisonous as bee venom. So if snakes bother you kill bees too, which many already do. When you kill those you'll destroy the hypocritical human too. At least that's what Einstein said. But I think one should fear humans more than snakes.
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urbancek16. 05. 2012 18:42:39
Just by the way, the adder has stronger, more toxic venom than Orsini's viper, just injects less into the tissue than Orsini's viper. Otherwise the bites are quite equivalent and no antivenom is needed for either, because it can cause even worse effect than the venom itself...mežikanjezavijanje z očmi

That about extermination is strong... Snakes are completely normal animals and it's right to leave the natural balance and all animals in nature alone!jezenzavijanje z očmi

Regards!
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Nanook16. 05. 2012 18:42:48
The snake bites, it doesn't sting.
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urbancek16. 05. 2012 18:45:59
@Nanook: Exactly. Although the term "sting" can still be found in newer books about mountains, even with publication year 2011.biggrin Obviously with snakes there's still big confusion and the terminology is adopted slowly...rolleyes
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bojann16. 05. 2012 20:14:35
I know all that, that snakes are completely normal animals and they always retreat if possible. Still, a chill runs through me if I accidentally step on one.
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VanSims16. 05. 2012 20:39:08
@Okmodko:
A viper sting can still be dangerous for a child or an elderly person.

@bojann:
If you're properly booted in the hills i.e. mountain boots and if you look where you sit and lie down and of course if you don't mistreat the snake, you have a very, very small chance (practically 0) that it stings you, pardon, bites you.
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Okmodko16. 05. 2012 22:00:07
For an allergic person, a bee sting can be fatal too. That's the world. Cars kill 100 times more people, yet no one bans them. Whoever doesn't like snakes should stay in the city. Those of us who go to the hills like that we don't find such people in the hills. We prefer snakes smile Otherwise, last time I was walking in upper Vintgar, I met a bear, we were all scared, the snake that suffered was the one I unknowingly stood on when I wanted to photograph the bear mrk I apologize to it.
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Irina17. 05. 2012 00:34:25
@Nanook,
thanks for clarification about lecture place. See you.

Article about snakes - Iztok Tomazin. Doctor and mountain rescuer.
http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/44607/

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People who write provocative comments are most often ignored both in family and wider environment. This kind of verbal or physical violence is the only way they are noticed. Sadly!
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bojann17. 05. 2012 09:15:11
@Okmodko:
I meet a bear almost every year at Snežnik, would like to meet a wolf, but apparently not that easy. And also: Rather meet 10 vipers in a pile than people like you wink
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Okmodko17. 05. 2012 11:26:46
Nice, nice that you wouldn't like to meet me. I rather meet people who have nothing against other people and me. But enjoy such sentences if you like. I think I met a wolf when going to Kobariški stol. Anyway at about 1500m 50m ahead I spotted a big dog with long bushy tail but it quickly disappeared behind the slope ahead. When I passed that slope it was nowhere. That day no one on the summit and place where I met it was far, far from first houses. So had to be wolf.
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lynx17. 05. 2012 23:08:46
Not necessarily, jackal appears there too.
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Okmodko17. 05. 2012 23:44:44
That was already 10 years ago. Back then I think it hadn't appeared yet. It was dark, almost black and quite big. The jackal was a bit bigger than a fox.
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