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| JusAvgustin1. 03. 2014 07:57:41 |
Yesterday via Kramarjeva route to Storžič. I've never seen the cross so iced...
Descent to Peto Žrelo.
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| jedriličar1. 03. 2014 08:10:35 |
Nice, Juš. But could you describe the conditions in the route and the fifth Žrelo a bit? 
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| socialac1. 03. 2014 08:23:49 |
Me too, I'd ask for a bit more info on Kramarjeva. Any jumps exposed or nicely filled and how's the snow consolidation? Thanks.
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| ljubitelj gora8. 03. 2014 19:48:00 |
Was today in Kramarjeva route, descent via Peto Žrelo, nice.
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| vukovivek8. 03. 2014 21:40:04 |
Congrats on this feat and pics are great too! :-)
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| JusAvgustin9. 03. 2014 08:53:16 |
What jumps... Hasn't been this good for a long time.
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| JusAvgustin10. 03. 2014 06:02:47 |
You nailed it well... A couple of pics 
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| jedriličar10. 03. 2014 08:27:43 |
Jus. Thanks again for the route info, beer is on me, won't forget...
Pics uploaded for those hesitating whether to go or not, just so they see that in these conditions the route is no big deal, a bit more experienced and technically shod get up no problem no belay... Last time we climbed Kramarca two years ago, end of January, all jumps were bare, had to belay 4 or 5 spots, rope and that took time and time, now you rocket up in three hours...
Just so you see how we nailed Peto žrelo for descent...
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| ljubitelj gora10. 03. 2014 11:04:06 |
jedriličar but like a rocket, you have book winter ascents, once showered me I was like snowman, down flying ice, hard snow so more looking to ground, higher slabs that with little load slid into depth there were quite some also on descent!, on descent over Fifth Gully I took upper experience of two hikers into account, waited if it would "slide", but when kicking at start of Kramar's "trapez" to hard base didn't want to slide so easy, layer 1, if not slid then peeled off and flipped but some stayed, but in gully I didn't do that...anyway no one did before entry, some did on descent in gully. This time didn't go that way, cuz slope up to 75° had two hiking ice axes just warning so no one thinks this easy and like walk, tracks can be lost by wind too. Only for EXPERIENCED and even then must be someone who was there, harness, rope was ready.
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| jedriličar10. 03. 2014 11:08:10 |
@lg, sorry, maybe you and I weren't in the same route .... there really were no problems in Kramarica ...
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| ljubitelj gora10. 03. 2014 11:18:01 |
No big problems, but higher up slabs slid under us and the wind was blowing, I thought an avalanche was coming down as it smoked higher up, and ice cubes, small slides, those were the conditions on Saturday not yesterday. I liked it
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| JusAvgustin10. 03. 2014 11:31:21 |
Sorry, me too, but it really interests me where you have such a steep incline given that it's walking? Congrats anyway for the route but no need to exaggerate and mislead possible repeaters. As done this year the route is really easy and recommendable for most who are tired of the central and Šentanc...
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| aonuk110. 03. 2014 11:57:32 |
Young sharpened roosters, open new thread ČVEK or KRNEKI and strut there....
regards Vinko
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| jedriličar10. 03. 2014 11:59:39 |
Look, @lg, now I'll put up a couple of pics from two years ago when Kramarica was bare, clean so you see what climbing in such conditions means. What you climbed (walked) on Saturday and I yesterday is a little harder than Y or Lenuh's in Begunjščica, but quite long and you need power in your legs, but as for technical difficulty currently it's very low. And pics follow ...
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