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| julius11. 06. 2017 09:45:25 |
Path maintainer for High Kanin, Prestreljenik, for stamps on these peaks is PD Bovec. Head of Marking Section PD Bovec is Mr. Mlakar, who is also head of Paths Commission at PZS.
They say the blacksmith's mare is always barefoot.
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| miri11. 06. 2017 11:12:25 |
@julius, where do you get the info that Mlakar is head of marking section PD Bovec?
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| miri11. 06. 2017 20:11:52 |
@ julius, your data is inaccurate, to say the least, not to say lying. PD Bovec doesn't even have a head of marking department.
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| julius11. 06. 2017 20:46:39 |
Miri.
My data is neither inaccurate nor lying.
Check the PZS website where it clearly states which PD the mentioned gentleman is from. That PD is PD Bovec.
The mentioned gentleman is also registered in the markers register as a marker of PD Bovec.
All this data is publicly available and please don't make value judgments until you check and verify the matter.
It is very strange that someone can be head of the Paths Commission at PZS if he comes from a society where the paths are so poorly maintained and abandoned. The last marker who was a true marker at heart in this PD was the late Igor Zlodej.
Friends last year, when the cable car to Kanin started running again, visited Kanin three times to get the SPP stamp (Slovenian Mountain Trail) in their booklet. Since they didn't get it neither on Kanin nor in Bovec from the responsible PD members, they decided they won't be seen in those places anymore.
Apparently the president of PD Bovec is not in favor of path marking. Apparently he advocates that mountain visitors should visit mountains with mountain guides. Maybe you know more about this?
As you say you know everything, also tell us if the hut on Kanin will be closed this year too?
Take care in the future as well.
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| dprapr11. 06. 2017 21:04:46 |
"Since they didn't get it neither on Kanin nor in Bovec from the responsible PD members, they decided they won't see them in those places anymore."
You can't believe it.
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| julius11. 06. 2017 21:13:38 |
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| MANGRT11. 06. 2017 22:01:12 |
Kanin as a mountain doesn't need markings at all. Already from the station there's a nicely traceable path over scree and also over rocks all the way to the top. In recent years the visits to the mountain have increased a lot, which burdens the mountain world too. More noticeable are the little paths scratched by poles and where once some flower or clump of grass struggled, now there's sand; markings aren't noticeable at all. Most people don't go to the mountains for stamps to brag about achievements, but seek peace for the soul.
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| raubšic12. 06. 2017 06:56:31 |
Whoever doesn't know should stay home!
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| korl12. 06. 2017 09:14:28 |
@julius
Friends last year, when the cable car to Kanin started running again, visited Kanin three times to get the stamp in the SPP booklet (Slovenian Mountain Trail). Since they didn't get it neither on Kanin nor in Bovec from responsible PD members, they decided they won't see them in those places anymore.
If such grumblers never come to these parts again, I hope others will follow the example of Bovec markers. Then we can enjoy the mountain peace more, and those can sit at home and carve their stamps from potatoes
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| Trobec12. 06. 2017 11:07:30 |
@MANGRT, nicely written, but I fear the last sentence doesn't hold or holds less and less. On hribi.net maybe it's not so noticeable yet, but on FB it's full of groups related to hiking and there you can see that for some it's much more important to post "perfect" selfies and count likes under them, than experiencing mountain nature.
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| Trobec12. 06. 2017 11:14:40 |
But one thing must be understood, if a trail is categorized as marked, then it must be marked as the PZS rules require. Otherwise, a trail can always be deleted from the mountain trails cadastre and then it's no longer marked and no one has obligations for maintenance (which ultimately costs something), and nature will be more grateful.
Today in Slovenia there are about 10,000km of marked trails, but in my opinion it's inevitable that some will need to be abolished in coming years. If a PD has 100km of trails and 1 or 2 registered markers (who have jobs, families and all other obligations) it's completely logical that they can't maintain it. New markers are hard to get today.
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| Daaam12. 06. 2017 12:07:06 |
The funniest thing to me in all these problems is that PZS, TNP and other mountain-related institutions can't decide what they want. On one side they invite to mountains, huts, TNP encourage spending time in nature, promote oh and generally green Slovenia, on the other hand obviously can't even repaint more remote markings, would most like to ban walking off-trail, and that in the hut they'd be happy with choice of jota and ričet and of course pay entrance to TNP too. God forbid starting a tour at night so we don't mess up animals' biorhythm. In short, everyone wants lots of entrance fees and memberships but work only ..what's necessary. As far as I'm concerned they can delete all markings, but it's not fair to those just starting in mountains. No one comes first time say to Bovec area and knows everything as if born smart. That's why Trobec is right...either maintain trails properly, or delete them from register, remove signposts and make sure they're not on next map editions either.
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| dprapr12. 06. 2017 12:26:52 |
Matija, you wrote that well.
Regarding jota though, when you stop at a hut once after many years, even that in the middle of the day is not available. But it didn't bother me.
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| vesna212. 06. 2017 13:58:01 |
Hehehe... best if everyone had their own peak just for themselves. I just went to check if Kanin has a stamp at the top. I don't need it. My kids do, but not to show off, but because it's some kind of motivation for them.
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| jax12. 06. 2017 16:17:52 |
Yeah, that talk in the style of "we don't need markings" is nothing but mountaineering snobbery. The truth is that on all somewhat more visited mountains some kind of signs would appear anyway and it's definitely more sensible to have an official path than a crowd of people (probably smaller, but to Kanin as the highest peak of the group people would still go), each scratching their own way. And in which case there would be more accidents, it's not even worth asking.
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| MANGRT15. 06. 2017 07:53:49 |
Yesterday friend forgot Swiss knife at summit register box. On it engraving BOŠTJAN, reward for finder won't be small.
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| gams115. 06. 2017 08:33:44 |
I'm heading up there this weekend too, ... but it interests me where exactly this shady mulattiera from Sella Nevea up starts, do you have maybe a photo of the starting point? Thanks and best.
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