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| dolenjka&primorc16. 07. 2013 09:46:09 |
in September 2011 he was also at the top of High Kanin 
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| ibex16. 07. 2013 10:29:11 |
on Prestreljenik there is none (I was there end of 6th month, so recently)
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| samokham23. 07. 2013 18:11:09 |
Has anyone happened to walk around the north side of V. Kanin? Namely, I'm interested in what the snowfield under ferrata Via Julia is like. Thanks for the answer.
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| Guest23. 07. 2013 20:59:53 |
Was there on Sunday. Initial part with chains still under snow. I used crampons and ice axe for ascent. On Slovenian side winter gear not needed.
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| IgorZlodej23. 07. 2013 21:03:45 |
There is really still quite a lot of snow and with each day it will be harder.
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| samokham25. 07. 2013 23:57:55 |
Would it perhaps even be worth it with skis?
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| janez.novak2. 08. 2013 08:13:28 |
I want to do a loop like sla did a few days ago: Gilberti - ferrata Julia - High Kanin - down the Slovenian side to the notch under Prestreljenik - Gilberti. Need self-belay, crampons and ice axe. Wondering if now is the right time for the Julia route and what the entrance to Julia is like (key pitch). Is the path on the Slovenian side (Kanin - Prestreljenik) well marked? How long would it take at average speed for such a loop?
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| Guest2. 08. 2013 10:20:16 |
Decide on SVK yourself, I went without it. A week ago the entrance to the ferrata was easy, now it might be different. When you reach the saddle, turn right to the summit which is really close. The path is well marked, you can't miss it. I took nine hours for the route from Neveje saddle and back via Prevala without the gondola (incl. Prestreljenik).
I walked a bit faster though.
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| sla2. 08. 2013 10:42:25 |
No need for ice axe, crampons handy though (I didn't use them). Decide on SVK yourself too. Key pitch was about half a meter wide. Slovenian side around ski area all torn up, faded marks or none but can't miss. Down ski slope annoying due to scree. Italian side left off piste, path marked with red dots. Whole loop no Prestreljenik under 6 hrs, walk fast too.
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| IgorZlodej2. 08. 2013 12:51:01 |
Since all marks on Kanin are mine, of course old now probably faded. For loop recommend after descent from Vrh Osojnic go down to below Prestreljenik window, then up towards window find branch right, go on marked path under south wall of Prestreljenik direct to notch, path not hard nor exposed, helmet recommended as under wall stuff can fall from top. From notch at upper pillar four-seater find marks and go marked to Prevala. Who likes scree ski slope can enjoy that too
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| sla2. 08. 2013 13:55:14 |
Well, why didn't you tell me before!!! It's true, fog caught me before the path junction to the Peter Skalar hut; I only emerged from it on the Italian side...
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| ljubitelj gora2. 08. 2013 14:05:23 |
You went down to the D station, I went along that path Igor mentions.
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| IgorZlodej2. 08. 2013 14:38:51 |
@sla, you should have asked me earlier
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| janez.novak3. 08. 2013 09:10:28 |
Thanks all for the info. Since you don't skimp on information, a few more things interest me: what's the height difference over scree and snowfield from Gilberti-Žrd junction to ferrata start and from there to the ridge. Really no ice axe needed for snowfield, maybe just microspikes - asking because I'm the cautious type. When descending Slovenian side, you say marks have faded. On the net they look OK. Maps show need to go past Vrh Osojnic (left) - right? If I understand Igor right, go towards window and then to Prestreljenik (is that branch marked and is path to Prestreljenik marked (Tabacco 19 has it marked with dots)). Above notch under Prestreljenik sign for Kanin (left, straight Prestreljenik). Path down from Prestreljenik I know. One more question - until when does cablecar run to valley?
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| don Sergio3. 08. 2013 13:39:57 |
I have one question: the Petra Skalar hut is closed until further notice. Does anyone maybe have some information if it will be open at all in this summer season and if it will be possible to sleep there?
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| milenula3. 08. 2013 19:36:54 |
Janez.novak, I don't know about the elevation difference, after the snowfield last week we didn't need anything, no crampons at all, poles came in handy. The path on the Slovenian side is nicely traceable. The last cable car from Gilbertija leaves at 17:30.
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| janez.novak6. 08. 2013 22:57:39 |
Today I walked Julči and descended from High Kanin on the Slovenian side. Based on my numerous questions I can draw the following conclusions: the snowfield to the climbing path is soft now, so no crampons and ice axe needed - maybe microspikes for better feel; the final chimney is 3/4 m wide and 1 m deep - entry easy, but initial part steepest and most demanding; ferrata equipped "0" - all non-stainless, cables all the way, on hard (vertical) parts short distance between pegs and rubber dampers like on Gonžarjeva peč; few ladders, so need to search natural steps and holds - feels like they wanted higher difficulty; I think SVK almost necessary; on descent Slovenian side markings really older, but no panic. I can say now it's a good time for this route. Finally a thought: Slovenian side completely abandoned, hut closed, few hikers due to big elevation difference - they say need new cable car - but where to get the money?
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| janez.novak8. 08. 2013 21:34:32 |
One question for Igor. Last year I asked you about comparing paths Julia - Rosalba Grasselli. I fully agree with what you wrote then (didn't recommend descent via Julia) - I preferred big detour via Prevala. What do you think, after ascending Julia would I be able to descend Rosalba Grasselli (I've done Anita Goitan, Via Italiani, Cerio Merlone,..). And one more: in the description of Rosalba Grasselli path it says it's harder than Julči - what is the reason for that statement? How long would descent via Rosalba to Gilbertija take in your opinion?
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| IgorZlodej9. 08. 2013 06:09:05 |
In my opinion descent from top of H. Kanin would take two hours, but for others maybe more. Harder, that's relative, but 3/4 of the path unsecured, means need to grip rock properly. Secured only part from Vrha Krnice to scree, which actually is ferrata.
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