What's going on with hribi.net?!
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| ljubitelj gora10. 11. 2011 08:13:46 |
Thanks, Rok, for the action. @IgorZlodej, @Juš, @turbo etc., come back.
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| GregorC10. 11. 2011 09:29:08 |
Great thing. I agree with Irina that the system should be arranged so that each votes only once per message. And can't vote on one's own! I'm just afraid it will come to what I see on other forums. Namely, + or - given based on the user, not the message itself. LP
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| VanSims10. 11. 2011 09:46:52 |
Rok, how will you enforce the rule that someone can't login with multiple usernames?
Additionally, people will give pluses and minuses not only regarding comment appropriateness but also regarding agreement or disagreement with content. That, if someone completely culturally states an opinion which most forum users disagree with, shouldn't be a reason for posting ban in my opinion.
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| ljubitelj gora10. 11. 2011 09:52:05 |
They have already blocked me, I can only edit the existing message.
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| zippo10. 11. 2011 10:26:01 |
Hahaha, LG has now become the main peacemaker on hribi.net
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| jaz*10. 11. 2011 11:09:47 |
It's excellent
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| VanSims10. 11. 2011 11:13:20 |
From one IP multiple users can log in (e.g., public internet accesses or shared family computers).
I also have a suggestion that pluses and minuses are publicly visible to everyone, and voting of course remains only with login.
@ljubitelj: As far as I know, everyone has the right to block access to their server; the question is whether Tadej and Rok have their own servers or host elsewhere, because in the latter case the thing is more complicated.
But as already said, it's senseless to block the IP but rather the login to the system. The page can still be viewed.
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| lynx10. 11. 2011 12:08:00 |
super; but will the message be automatically deleted with enough minuses? Slashdot has this excellently arranged, but I know the same system isn't possible because it's non-linear.
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| Mate0710. 11. 2011 16:28:08 |
I had to pull out my first username on hribi.net, so I already got the warning:
Posting messages is temporarily disabled for you.
Reason: ???? I won't say it, it's written in this thread
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| skalar5010. 11. 2011 16:35:56 |
Maybe still an attempt that will bear fruit...
and will the "thumbs" come to all sections?
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| Rok10. 11. 2011 16:47:32 |
A blocked user can still normally browse hribi.net web pages, just cannot post messages. The purpose is thus to interrupt senseless debates and remove messages that the vast majority of users do not want.
Multiple existing users can log in from the same computer, but it's not possible to register a new user.
If someone who really doesn't have a username yet has problems with registration because of this, registration will still be possible, but not automatic, they will need to contact us by email.
The message is currently not deleted automatically, but the moderator will find it easier and delete it if necessary.
The system is currently being tested, so we still need to find the right measure of how quickly and strictly to punish the user.
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| gmajna10. 11. 2011 19:17:18 |
I tested a bit, it's obvious that for you the same computer is the same IP, although for the registration attempt I used another computer, not this one on which I'm writing this.  This way you block entire networks, both home and office, various open networks where many people use the same IP, and at the same time you don't prevent access to those with dynamic addresses (e.g. most siol users).
I think repressive policy on forums doesn't pay off, on the contrary you embitter the life of potential new users, who about such a forum that requires an email request for registration, well they think what they think. In the future will a written application and copy of ID be needed? 
It would make sense to delete messages that annoy the majority, not to carry out blocks that experienced users can of course bypass. If I wanted to spam, I can make a bunch of new users, with minimal work for each use another proxy, or access via anonymization network (tor). Even simpler is to use neighbor's unsecured wifi for registration, there are still plenty.
Senseless debates are simply reduced as larger forums do it - that insolent or offensive message is deleted immediately or asap, of course the forum must have a team of moderators who regularly read the forum, this seems like one-man-band? 
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| gmajna10. 11. 2011 19:38:52 |
And one more thing, these thumbs up down are not a measure of quality, just a measure of likability.
I prefer people who dare to think with their own head and dare to say their opinion, even if they might sometimes be a bit annoying because of it (as long as they are not offensive, nothing wrong); rather than yes-men who write messages like "I agree", "+1"...
The slogan "all different, all equal" is closer to me, than a system that based on online voting disables differently thinking people, especially if the admin is looking for the "right measure how quickly and strictly to punish users". 
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| Damijan10. 11. 2011 20:02:08 |
Gmajna, I don't know how Rok and Tadej divide the work. Is it one-man-band as you say, or two-man-band? Fact is there are tons of posts and one person or two just can't read every single post and remove possibly inappropriate ones.
It would be great if there were more moderators.
I welcome Rok's idea that he tries to do something, at least some step will be made. But the world always divides into those who agree with the idea and those who don't. With nothing is there ever 100% agreement from all sides. So let's see how the thing turns out over time, then we can comment more appropriately whether it was a super or "crazy" idea.
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| viharnik10. 11. 2011 20:10:15 |
If we lived in healthy communist times, Lenin's teaching would show a good concept for solving differences between people. Even in the working class, where the current global EU crisis is a consequence of uneven capitalist distribution and concentration only on individuals, Marx's and Engels' insight into rights would come in handy.. And let someone say over Tito and the golden life back then in former Yugo-nostalgia
For introducing thumbs, I agree with the positive benefit, that it selects someone who causes confusion on the forum with a minute of time and does not stick to basic common sense and respect for users of the mountaineering portal. Moderator, even if maybe only one, will be able to react faster and remove unwanted guest.Lp!
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| geppo10. 11. 2011 20:43:27 |
due to the post published tonight ( http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&gorovjeid=3&id=1878 ) I got two PMs with the following content..
""Pointless to bother anymore, advising, adding pics, ignore, don't add pics, enjoy nature, we go to mountains for ourselves.""
added, wouldn't do anything, won't even thank...the PM content says it all
LP
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| martin410. 11. 2011 21:15:59 |
It happened what I predicted in the Triglav topic (I was deleted), this forum is going the way of the pzs forum. Everything written and done now is out of context and spirit of this forum (hribi). The writing sadly shows the state of mind in our society!
lp
Martin4
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| VanSims10. 11. 2011 21:54:25 |
***geppo said***:
due to tonight's published post ( http://www.hribi.net/trenutnerazmere.asp?slo=1&gorovjeid=3&id=1878 ) I got two PMs with content: ""Pointless...""
***MajaO said***: Obviously many of us got such PM (many?)
You two too? The user I won't reveal (but admin should grab him hard) obviously used even spamming to achieve his goals.
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| gmajna10. 11. 2011 23:43:47 |
@primoza, on gore.net there's no mountain content, on gore-ljudje.net the forum is practically dead, about 10 messages a month, mostly lost items, check the latest posts.
The only lively thing there are trail reports on the front page; seems admins or site owners don't want a working forum.
That's what you get if you stick to outdated bureaucratic ID system, dead forum. Any sense writing on such forum? No.
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