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| Irina8. 05. 2012 00:46:54 |
I don't only hike in the mountains ......
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| dragica.gnjezda@gmail.com8. 05. 2012 10:06:11 |
Maja, I've wanted to write many times already that I really miss your descriptions on hribi.net. First I go read what you write. The pictures are much more visible here than on your blog. Pity. Such duels are a pleasant addition. You are really an original dueler, short-lived; you tell yours and turn things into humor at the right time. Only someone intelligent enough can parry you. And best regards to all.
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| dogna8. 05. 2012 13:40:25 |
Bravo, dragica.gnezda. I completely agree with you. Maja, don't let various weird "lovers" get to you and for us who admire your writing keep writing!! The lover will keep yapping like a hobbyist... Whatever! What's it called? Oh. Let's leave them their joy, they don't know what they want! And best mountaineering regards! To the lover too.
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| Lunatic8. 05. 2012 15:09:07 |
Any more suggestions where to go with obligatory unleashed dog  ? Finally early in the morning on the hunting trail to Vitranc and then to Cirpnik trotted, my dog company matched the number of visitors perfectly  . Up top met excellent company too who unfortunately doesn't write on the forum anymore because of such threads  . Nice day...
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| zavesten8. 05. 2012 17:37:45 |
I'm not impatient, but dogs in the mountains definitely bother me. Whoever likes dogs should keep it at home, even for me in the bedroom all night, but don't burden others with your difference. Let dog lovers rather socialize with people, leave dogs for what their original task was.
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| pohodnik118. 05. 2012 18:23:13 |
@zavesten, I completely agree with you, but if you say something and write more concretely, you're the biggest pig on this forum who doesn't like animals and thus according to them people either, and immediately a pack gathers that jumps on you. I laugh the most when I see that some are pathologically obsessed with their four-legged ones and you're their enemy right away if you don't praise and glorify them  . Well, love is love and theirs is the best, most obedient and oh and everything 
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| gamsi8. 05. 2012 18:30:47 |
You are like children in kindergarten, but can you play these childish games via private messages?
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| pohodnik118. 05. 2012 18:41:16 |
@gamsi, children are the most unspoiled part of this race and also pure thoughts and direct communication approaches.
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| Planjava9. 05. 2012 14:25:55 |
But it really seems to me that here continuously someone (who is not a dog) waits for a bone to gnaw?
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| VanSims13. 05. 2012 00:15:49 |
Today on the path from Črni Kal (Blegoš) to Poljane on Radio Sora (probably the only station available up there) I listened to a conversation with Boštjan Vidic, translator of Cesar Millan's book: Dog Whisperer. It writes exactly what I already knew myself: the dog is a mirror of its owner!
The owner must be the pack leader, because the dog only understands that behavior (from wolf ancestors). The dog takes every human emotion as a sign of weakness: shouting, fear, anger, and also e.g. empathizing with it. In communication with the dog there is no room for emotions otherwise the dog will take the pack leader role. It also doesn't understand our speech e.g. if we scold it. It understands only our energy and senses it very well: positive and negative.
If the owner does not behave like a pack leader (alpha male) the dog takes that role and then becomes aggressive and hard to control or confused if from the owner's behavior it cannot discern what its role is: pack leader or subordinate.
All the owner's psychological instabilities and disorders reflect on the dog. The dog requires a psychologically stable, mature and decisive alpha male. If not there are problems...
Well now, how many owners even know what a pack leader is? Anyone can have a dog here. Even the psychologically unstable and those who have no clue about upbringing and relationship to the dog.
That's why it's the way it is. For incidents then with such a bad owner of course the dog is to blame (or even the one who dared to cross his dog's path or another dog it tangled with). Quite often after some unpleasant encounter with a dog you hear the owner scolding it. Utter nonsense! The dog doesn't even understand what you want to tell it, for its stupidities the owner himself is to blame!
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| peter213. 05. 2012 07:31:51 |
Is it bad weather and you have nothing else to do?
Wasn't it written that there would be an end to writing about these dog things? Otherwise most of us would be more interested in path descriptions and conditions. No hard feelings
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| gamsi13. 05. 2012 09:17:34 |
Like children in the sandbox, that's why I like watching them so much.
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| joža x13. 05. 2012 11:15:24 |
Isn't there a dog lovers' forum, because you really are.......
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| VanSims13. 05. 2012 11:16:44 |
@MajaO: I've come across the pack leader theory several times on the net before. And of course, as you write yourself, the owner must be a GOOD pack leader. In nature the pack leader of dogs or wolves is really the strongest, most intelligent and potent specimen, as he has to strive for leadership by fighting other males. Well, a human doesn't have to fight anything - he just needs money to buy a dog.
Of course I've only heard of this Cesar in passing, my opinion is layman's, but you've probably watched his shows on National Geographic and as an expert you can better judge his methods.
If it really involves physical and psychological violence against the dog (which I didn't gather from that short radio show - quite the opposite) then of course it's not a good method. The pack leader in nature is not violent, he is just authority!
@peter2, gamsi, joža_x: I'm not arguing with Maja, just debating. If you don't want to, no need to read!
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| Nanook13. 05. 2012 11:24:57 |
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| VanSims13. 05. 2012 14:38:05 |
That the hierarchy in packs is more of a family nature (father, mother and offspring) I've also encountered.
Well, the key part to me is when he says that in an artificially assembled pack from wolves (or dogs) from different families there would still be classic alpha male dominance or hierarchy or fight for dominance.
Owner and dog (or several dogs) are actually such an artificial pack (from the dog's point of view).
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| Nanook13. 05. 2012 15:39:57 |
Dr. Mech talks about wolves, not dogs. If you're interested in dogs, you'll have to dig around a bit more for articles on their behavior in groups, which is different from wolves'. Boitani, Ciucci, Ortolani - google these authors, for starters.
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| geppo13. 05. 2012 15:56:01 |
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| dragica.gnjezda@gmail.com14. 05. 2012 10:15:49 |
Vansims, that mirror thing is pure nonsense. I had 4 dogs, mixed breeds, and each was character-wise different. When you say that the dog is a mirror of the human, people imagine that the dog is friendly because the owner is friendly and vice versa. But that doesn't hold even by chance. However, the dog's character can be softened, or its bad or good traits potentiated. Currently I have 2 pups that are completely opposite character-wise. If they were my mirror, they would behave at least similarly, if not the same. Best regards.
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