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Bavarian Grintavec

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hobbit14. 08. 2009 16:49:33
Hi, wondering if the self-belay kit is really needed on the direct path from Zadnja Trenta to B. Grintavec?
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Gorazd G14. 08. 2009 17:11:18
Bovški Gamsovec is not Bavarian Grintavec! mrk pogled

Otherwise, no gear is harmful, if we know how to use it correctly, of course.
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marko114. 08. 2009 20:01:13
For Bovški Gamsovec, maybe you need self-belay from Kriški Podi direction, a bit below the summit one cable. Nothing special, but do have a helmet. From the notch the path is mostly grassy slopes.
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Gorazd G14. 08. 2009 20:17:19
Come on, who's illiterate here?!

Hobbit asks about BAVŠKI GRINTAVEC ABOVE ZADNJA TRENTA!!! zmeden
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marko114. 08. 2009 21:04:08
Sorry, checked the map, you're right. Haven't been there yet.
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legenda14. 08. 2009 21:08:35
Best regards, hobbit. Self-belay kit usable only at a few spots as very few cables, so decide based on own experience. If ascent via Kanja pass, highly recommend self-belay kit. Helmet use mandatory for me in both cases.
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hobbit14. 08. 2009 23:06:00
Thanks a lot for the reply. Buddy and I decided Bavarian Grintavec waits a bit. Need to buy helmet as don't have yet.

Going to Rombon tomorrow =)

best regards
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flapho17. 08. 2009 16:23:44
On Saturday, my colleague and I went to Bavški Grintavec from Zadnja Trenta via Planina Zapotok and then directly to the summit. We descended via Kanja saddle back to the valley. We spent a great day in even better weather and climbs, as the approach and descent offer quite some adrenaline for those who want to try climbing. Be careful of rockfall and sections that are not secured with pegs and cables.
Bavški Grintavec from planina Zapotok1
Shepherd's shelter on planina Zapotok2
Morning view towards Jalovec3
There is still quite some snow4
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View towards Trenta and Vršič6
At the summit7
No crowds - nine in the morning8
Ridge from sedlo Kanja to the summit9
From Prisojnik to Triglav10
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hanč17. 08. 2009 16:41:29
Wonderful pics tempt me up there. LP
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dj1220. 09. 2009 20:05:18
On Friday afternoon we went to Planina Zapotok, where we slept in the shepherd's hut; on Saturday at 7:00 (yesterday) via the easier route to the top of Bavški Grintavec, and descended via Kanja saddle towards the pasture. At first the weather was cloudless, then it clouded over - no view at all. This was the conclusion of my SPP route - fantastic!!
towards Planina Zapotok1
remnants of rain...2
abandoned tent in the shepherd's hut on Planina Zapotok3
a candle was shortening the evening for us4
shepherd's hut on the pasture - winter damaged it considerably5
last blueberries this year6
companion along the uphill path7
new shape of markers8
quite demanding passage9
it was cloudy at the top10
the stamp is torn out of the rock11
then the sun came out too12
descent over Kanja saddle13
very demanding descent over the saddle14
interesting cairn15
Bavški Grintavec from Planina Zapotok already in the clouds16
Zapotoški waterfalls17
Wondering (Triglav north face?) whether this branching path leads to the shepherd's hut?18
the path that forks (upper goes towards Špičje) we looked at on the way back from Grintavec19
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anemona24. 09. 2009 22:22:41
Yesterday my husband and I were in beautiful sunny weather on Bavški Grintavec. Started from Soča at 6.00 (with headlamp) and were just before 11.00 at the top. The path is not difficult, but very long, steep and strenuous. So we got water for descent at hunting hut Soča and at one more place. We calculated 3 liters per person up and down, but didn't use it all (surely different in summer). On return we met only two hikers who planned to the top - hope they managed to return before dark, as they were quite late. At Andrejc inn we were at 15.30, with us we brought some dežnikarice from Lemovje pasture. For this path good condition is needed, as you do 1800 m ascent and descent at once, in one day. Markings are faded, quite helpful (in rocky part) are the cairns, so no problem with direction.
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velesa25. 10. 2009 19:49:38
On Bavški Grintavec it was wonderful today at 11 o'clock. A bit windy, covered with snow, especially clear and views far around. Path from Soča to start of scree is completely dry. From start of scree to top, the trail is mostly under a few cm snow blanket. So caution needed, especially through the gully. Had to probe with foot many times to get secure step, as couldn't see what's under snow. Snow not frozen, so no crampons needed. When returning, it was so warm that I had to put on short sleeves and enjoy an hour of sun on Planina Nad Soča. Good luck!
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skleščk4. 11. 2009 14:12:07
Dear mountaineers. Surely some of you have already climbed Bavarian Grintavec from the direction of Planina nad Sočo via peaks Kol, Mali and Veliki Muzec. I am interested whether it is possible in dry conditions to encounter any major difficulties on this ascent.
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viharnik4. 11. 2009 16:23:23
As far as I know, the Muzci are west of Kobariški Stol, Planina nad Sočo exists as a starting point to Bavarian Grintavec. In dry conditions you encounter lack of water, because there are no springs, the path climbs quite high.
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smidov david4. 11. 2009 16:42:23
Can the stamp even be normally stamped if you say it's damaged and even torn from the rock?
Please, can someone answer me this? Or maybe add a picture of a stamped stamp.
Triglavski, can you organize or speed up the replacement of the stamp?
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triglavski4. 11. 2009 17:08:19
From Planina nad Sočo leads a marked path along Predolina towards B.G. To the east is Kol (1924 m), further a kind of ridge from Mali to Veliki Muzec, which is located SE past the top of B.G. Details regarding passability or climbing difficulty I do not know.
As for the stamp, it is the competence of the PD that maintains the path from the Zapoden direction. Ours is from the village Soča and Bavšice over the top Brda. Of course nobody has stamps on stock and each must be ordered separately, and they are not cheap either. As much as I saw on the picture above, the stamp is still usable and those who climb to the top in these winter conditions will get the stamp too, if they find it.
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Gorazd G4. 11. 2009 18:15:05
On this ridge my wife and I have already been. We climbed to it from the marked path to B.G. right through grass to Kol. We continued along the ridge over Mali and Veliki Muzec to the top of Škodela and left to Bavarian Grintavec. Descent of course via marked path to Soča.

On the ridge nothing worse than good UIAA I, just need nose for passages and bypass some crumbly corners. Otherwise can be much harder. Us accompanied light drizzle all the time. So possible also in wet, but smartly.

This interesting approach to B.G. will come also in picture and (longer) word in Gorniških potepanjih, but unfortunately can't do everything at once ...

Promise by end of next winter, when snow melts, before that better leave ridge alone anyway. Day is now very short for such feats.

One more: who has walked all marked paths to Bavarian Grintavec and wants something more demanding, can choose this approach, which is significantly more difficult than southern ridge (Kol - Muzci - Škodela):

http://www.gore-ljudje.net/novosti/37247/
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ploha7. 06. 2010 18:08:03
On Saturday in really nice weather, our aim was to reach from hut at source of Soča to the top of BG, but path ended at saddle where direct path and path over Kanski preval meet somewhere at 2150m. Path was dry to ca 1600m, further first only snow patches, later snow amount increased considerably. For last ascent on avalanche chute to saddle big caution needed with all winter gear. Further in wall even huge snow and so safer to end path and return to valley. Even though didn't see top the trip was nice and after six hours pleasantly tired returned.
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Guest29. 06. 2010 19:10:02
On 25.6 we set off to Bavški Grintovec from the hut at the source of Soča through Zadnjo Trenta to Kanski preval and via the climbing section to the top. The path is dry, except on the climbing part where the path runs through the streambed (15m); the cable is still under snow. Further to the top, dry. For the descent we went via the so-called direct path, where there is still plenty of snow on the scree under Grintavec, but no problems because it is no longer precipitous.

nice regards, david
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ploha5. 07. 2010 17:54:16
On Saturday 3.7. again a visit to Bavški Grintovec, but conditions now completely different from those a month ago. As the "guest" before me described, the path as far as snow goes is normally passable, needs only greater caution due to very crumbly rock. The path over Kanski pass itself regarding difficulty somewhat exceeded expectations, but nevertheless the tour was very nicenasmeh Lp
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