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| Daaam6. 03. 2013 12:39:51 |
Jumii: yeah we already debated how it is with those pixels....as for zoom it's like everyone knows for himself why he'll use it and how much he needs.. Sensors in compacts are all kinda small anyway ..but there's new Nikon Coolpix A  that has DX format sensor...
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| Hribovc886. 03. 2013 12:41:59 |
jumii, as I read from your message, you advise against buying Olympus. Now I really don't know which one to take anymore, I think I'll miss least if I take Canon Powershot SX150 IS for 95 euros.
Chico that's for sure hehe, I don't doubt it at all  
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| Zebdi6. 03. 2013 12:44:52 |
Hribovc, or if you followed the advice and went to check the tests on dpreview?
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| ljubitelj gora6. 03. 2013 12:47:05 |
Regarding zoom. One quick magnification, second 12x and up to 48x. So as for zoom this is more than enough
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| Daaam6. 03. 2013 12:47:53 |
Hribovc..at around 200 euros you can't go far wrong with the purchase...of course if you want bigger sensor and more light power (aperture) you'll pay more money too.. just go to the store and take them in hand a bit.maybe you'll decide easier then
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| Chico6. 03. 2013 12:53:35 |
On this page type the camera name into the search box (under groups) and you'll find groups where photos are taken with your selected camera.
http://www.flickr.com/search/groups/?
Might help a bit.
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| Daaam6. 03. 2013 12:57:48 |
these are already mirrorless cameras (interchangeable lens but camera without mirror) ..one class higher than compacts. Intermediate step to DSLR... well otherwise you can get a compact for a grand if you want 
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| Hribovc886. 03. 2013 13:11:49 |
Matej, did you take that pic with PowerShot SX150 IS? Really phenomenal photos
Chico, thanks, I'll check it out.
Just noticed that this Olympus SZ31 MR is smaller and lighter than Canon Powershot SX150 IS, so no need to go to town
Powershot SX150 IS
Dimensions: 113.3 x 73.2 x 45.8
Weight: 306 g
Olympus SZ-31 MR
Dimensions: 103.3 x 69.2 x 39.7
Weight: 244 g (with battery and memory card).
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| ljubitelj gora6. 03. 2013 13:14:49 |
SX130 has 12x zoom, and 12.1 megapix. I shoot in Program mode.
One night shot
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| jumii6. 03. 2013 13:25:07 |
@Daam even the small Canon s100/110 has a sensor of that size 1/1.7".
Anyway, check dpreview.com, especially those products that got gold or silver award. Even if the review is a year or two old it's fine. No difference in image quality. Better look at user feedback, because manufacturers in eternal battle to make products cheaper get stingy and make features instead of responsiveness and usability. And then under pressure "buy the newest" you end up with 3 mp more, 1 cm bigger screen and slower camera :/. The only new feature I'd personally want is WiFi image transfer.
Even if you go check in some big bang, put in a card, do burst of 5 shots, and you'll see right away how it responds. Say black screen for 3 seconds between shots... I wouldn't buy such photos.
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| Daaam6. 03. 2013 13:39:30 |
@jumi..yeah I know ..but for price around 200 eur probably won't get bigger sensor (might be wrong)
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| Hribovc886. 03. 2013 14:15:56 |
We've discussed and debated most things, just don't know if anyone has experience with Olympus SZ-31MR and if you recommend it? As I understand it has too many pixels and that's a marketing trick, this thing with too many pixels
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| Daaam6. 03. 2013 14:49:53 |
well with pixels it's like this.. if sensor is good there aren't too many...but if they cram lots on mini sensor it shows in photo quality in poor light conditions...bit of a marketing scam, though not as much as they used to emphasize.. still you always have option to reduce resolution by a few million in such cases.. And it's true average hobby photographer doesn't need 16 mio in practice... unless making huge crops and then printing that.. If you're just viewing photos on computer, occasionally developing some in normal sizes no need to worry about how many millions of pixels..
in photography the photographer is always most important..you can squeeze quite a lot from any egg.. It's wrong to think that good camera gives good photo by itself..
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| Hribovc886. 03. 2013 14:50:12 |
Matej, just noticed you have older version of this Canon, if this already makes such phenomenal pics, what must the new version do (SX150 IX) I think I know which one I'll buy
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| jumii6. 03. 2013 15:23:02 |
According to this test it looks ok compared to the competition: http://www.cnet.com.au/olympus-sz-31mr-339342896.htm#image1
Although as I see it only has a 1/2.3" sensor.
Personally I'm not a fan of these extreme zooms. My view is that the more you zoom the more the image shakes, which doesn't matter if shooting with a tripod, but if shooting handheld then such zoom is only conditionally usable, plus the aperture closes a lot. In other words 24x zoom on a compact without tripod only works when the sun is shining
Also with big zoom you often have limitations in the atmosphere itself because it's often hazy etc. And people often buy big zooms and then zoom instead of taking a few steps closer to the subject. Pictures (portraits) are much more natural if shot at focal length around 50mm - such perspective as you'd actually see with your own eye.
Just food for thought. If you're photographing eagles on a tree on the neighboring hill on sunny days, 24x zoom will definitely come in handy.
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| Irina6. 03. 2013 16:27:28 |
@jumii,
regarding big zooms I pretty much agree with you. I have Canon SX30is.
With the zoom, I could bring eagles living in the Julians close to my home windowsill, but air pollution does its thing and the photo is blurry.
Personally I love Panasonic. The TZ7 camera which is pocket version but allows wonderful photos had an accident. It doesn't work as it should anymore. And some time ago I asked right in this section if anyone got tired of TZ 20 in black color.
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| ljubitelj gora6. 03. 2013 16:49:48 |
Canon SX130 this difference factory P shooting and included Cv function (colors)
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| Daaam6. 03. 2013 16:50:49 |
For eagles you need top optics + dslr anyway. unless you're lucky to be close to it when it's resting..
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| Irina6. 03. 2013 18:15:02 |
@Daaam,
I was just kidding a bit about eagles. Canon SX30is has 35x zoom, which
makes 840 mm. Sadly I haven't seen mountain eagles even from afar, let alone get close to them.
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