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Planned removal of Aljaž Tower from Triglav

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Kobra 121. 07. 2009 21:52:12
You know, I've stood on the top thirty times and we've done quite a few mountain baptisms at "our pride". Now I'm just waiting for someone to think of it and put a cross instead of the towerjezenjezenjezen
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serajko21. 07. 2009 22:02:34
The tower was also like this in the previous century. (if the dates aren't fooling me 28.10.1966)
28.10.19661
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FLEKSARCA21. 07. 2009 22:14:48
The pic from 66 is IMPERIAL!!!
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serajko21. 07. 2009 22:21:51
Also for such events our grandchildren and descendants will be deprived. That little girl who was baptized in Aljaž Tower (8.8.1978) happily remembers the event!
Triglav 19781
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PUHI22. 07. 2009 07:27:58
Judging by the pics, they've already replaced it, the door opens on the other side, or maybe political parties are to blame: before left, now right opening, and the color is no longer reddish?
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Žan22. 07. 2009 11:56:59
The picture from '66 is really good, but unfortunately it's mirrored. Probably the negative was flipped wrong during scanning - so left and right are swapped.
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PUHI22. 07. 2009 13:50:30
Žan, thanks for the info, since I'm not a photo expert I really thought they renovated it that way. As for the relocation, I can't believe they even thought of it. Still this year I must visit it with daughters who haven't been up yet so they don't miss it.zadrega
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heinz22. 07. 2009 16:52:17
All that, dear ones, is completely wrong (excuse me) - serf thinking.
We must change direction.
So! We don't mourn something that hasn't happened yet, but wish and hope we'll succeed in preventing something opposite to national interest.
Don't all rush to Triglav now to not miss anything, but rather ponder how to seriously resist this heartless capitalist (maybe even communist) dictatorial idea of removing the national symbol of All-Slovenianhood!
Help ourselves or help Aljaž so his tower survives another tyranny and stays at the 'holy' place it was planned, made and hand-carried to. We know the purpose well.
I think previous ruler, known mountaineer, wouldn't allow such thinking. Don't hit me over the head now!
Think about who rules us..
Never before anyone said Aljaž Tower is in such bad state to 'conserve' it or put in museum lest it falls apart?????!!!!!!!!
What about when after independence they cut off star and Slovenian workers handmade and attached new symbol or flag with year?? Who is the author of that part of our national symbol? Hey??
Do you think it's right those guys who created and attached the mentioned thing intending it stays there forever now stay silent like most of you calmly watching what some plan, or even like many now planning quickest ascent to Father to see the thing last time in its place and for which it was originally meant with great national feelings?
No, that and all else simply must not and cannot stay hidden!!
Are we then still a nation of serfs??
Help priest Aljaž then!!
Easy for Ekar, since Aljaž is already dead!1
easy now for PZS!2
what do you say father Aljaž about this swinery?3
Dovje and Mojstrana don't need Triglav in the valley. Who then?4
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viharnik22. 07. 2009 19:15:30
Triglav is symbol of Slovenianhood and main holy place from which Slovenia arose. Aljaž Tower must stay where Jakob Aljaž put it! Monument of extraordinary importance to Slovenes from which we read how proudly, thoughtfully, fearlessly and incorruptibly Aljaž and others fought in such hard Germanic times to gain small property on Triglav top. This piece of Slovenian light was important milestone of Slovenia's formation, Slovenian word, customs and thus firm Slovenian awareness. When looking at old pics of my grandpa Stane b.1910 (mom's side) from 1935, it gives me chills that this tower will no longer be on top. How proud they stood up there. Then ascent to top was big feast, big deed for a person, reliving Aljaž times and feeling - today I am really Slovenian! Up there only true mountaineers (hillfolk) climbed then, few of them. Expensive shoes, not all dared to walk in mountains. Then only few stepped on its top. PRESERVE IT!
Old father Stanko at the top of Triglav Tower in 19351
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Stanko with ice axe on the summit5
Securing with a rope6
This one is the right one, with an ice axe7
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viharnik22. 07. 2009 19:56:05
Both pics are with ice axe, since Stanko didn't need it at all...
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serajko22. 07. 2009 21:25:19
Good observers you are! One picture is really mirrored, that's why they are not in the same reply.
lp
this one is correctly oriented, if I knew I would have deleted the previous one1
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serajko22. 07. 2009 21:43:45
And yet another comparison with Viharnik's grandfather. Only that it's approx. 30 years younger.
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burja23. 07. 2009 00:35:10
What kind of cameras are you using, jerks? The symbol of Slovenian identity isn't the Aljažev tower, but Triglav! The Aljažev tower is a tin monument, so rust will corrode it sooner or later. And I'd rather see a nice copy up there than a rusty barrel full of holes. But I agree that for now the time for replacement hasn't come yet...
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jjasmin23. 07. 2009 02:23:16
I think that for now it's only necessary to change the PZS leadership and nothing else, and the issue will be resolved.
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zippo23. 07. 2009 07:24:21
Changing the leadership is necessary anyway. Let's hope that the delegates will vote with their own heads when the time comes and of course - that a capable counter-candidate will be found, young and dynamic who will have a vision of how to lead PZS in the present and not in the past.

I have no opinion for or against the tower.

But the last serajko picture is a textbook example of "mountaineering culture" and preservation of "holy Slovenian heritage".
- With a cigarette and sweat-stained ass on Aljažev's head. Disgustingjezen
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Žan23. 07. 2009 09:17:44
With that cigarette, one must consider the time when the picture was taken. Smoking today is considered a negative and undesirable habit, but it wasn't always like that. Just think of the famous Piparje, who with their smoking reached not only high peaks, but also history and even postage stamps.
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birch23. 07. 2009 10:37:39
I too am against the removal of the tower. I would like to see it and touch it on top of Triglav. I hope I succeed next year.velik nasmeh
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turbo23. 07. 2009 12:31:12
Birch, hoping is no sin. But those pricks from PZS, read Ekar, plan to "clean it up" already this year. jezen
If they succeed, which I strongly doubt, you'll go to the museum in slippers and "pet it nicely" ?!? zavijanje z očmi
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Bojan_A23. 07. 2009 13:42:52
On Facebook we've already collected over 500 signatures and when there are 1000, I'll write to Ekar.

You're still invited to join and express your disagreement with the planned

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=214001980514
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pohodnik0123. 07. 2009 15:18:22
The Aljažev tower must stay where it was placed. If its purpose wasn't to be on top of Triglav, it would have been placed in the middle of Ljubljana. Those who want it in a museum should rather retire themselves and leave the work and thinking to the younger ones. It really affects some older people's brains.
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