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| Jonny_7. 02. 2012 22:42:43 |
@prepolc80: Are we meeting tomorrow too?  Zmaj and I are attacking Rinke again tomorrow. Last time we didn't go any further.
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| ljubitelj gora18. 02. 2012 19:11:37 |
Today from Logar Valley onwards past Okrešelj-Turkish Gully-Little Rinka-Styrian and Carinthian Rinka, winter conditions, full winter gear required.
Initially we aimed for Ledinski vrh but due to no tracks we went Turkish Gully instead, as predecessors had already made tracks... there's lots of windblown snow in the gully, at the bottom where the climbing path ends there's about 4 meters of snow, higher up also windblown snow, no issues on the Rinkas, except to Little one it's pretty icy in places. We got properly battered though. Descent oh my fingers, almost the whole way backwards. It was super, I liked the tour and not too demanding, during descent an avalanche poured from Mrzla gora. From the Rinkas I watched the helicopter rescue operation, a mountaineer was fatally injured on Brana.
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| ljubitelj gora18. 02. 2012 21:03:02 |
The path to Ledinski vrh is not tracked from Logar Valley direction, at least three groups turned back. So I recommend ascent through Turkish Gully, then to Turska gora or Rinke, but tomorrow the weather will be different and consequently new snow, new conditions, the grade will rise.
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| petrah77722. 02. 2012 08:13:35 |
On Sunday via Žmavčarje to Little, Styrian and Carinthian Rinka 
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| pelican22. 02. 2012 08:52:30 |
How beautiful we are 
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| ljubitelj gora22. 02. 2012 10:26:08 |
You really are beautiful I see you have crampons-ice axe or crampons-poles, but me and my buddy swapped poles at the big rock where the memorial plaques are under Turkish Gully, put on a helmet. I was a witness to a mountaineer's fall, slip and speed.... still shocks me today, because I saw it live.... around Rinke and if he didn't have ice axe he would have seriously injured himself. Caution mountaineers!!! Helmet, crampons and ice axe, poles in backpack. And we practiced too that day, at least I descended and self-arrested with ice axe several times, from now on before every serious tour I'll practice this, because it's crucial to stop in the first 4 meters. What others do now I prefer to look at the ground? No helmet, forward descent, fiddling with ice axe, swapping ice axe for poles (not necessary), careless descent.....
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| jany198022. 02. 2012 15:41:45 |
Recession is... not everyone can have gear for a couple thousand €...
But they have the will and desire, like everyone who can afford it
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| Krištof Kumprej23. 02. 2012 17:47:48 |
Basic rule should be that poles are not used simultaneously with crampons-logical right? But I think because of recession there's no need to risk your life and especially others' lives, if you don't have proper gear and knowledge (experience) don't go into mountains in such conditions. Otherwise it's more important to have the right gear (helmet, ice axe, crampons, first aid,...) and not some fancy brand boots, backpacks, glasses and other crap. And that doesn't cost that much.
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| Zebdi23. 02. 2012 17:59:50 |
On this photo, the rope team of 6 people seems the strangest to me. It's OK for a demonstration on a sufficiently gentle slope, but definitely it doesn't seem safe to me for crossing "steep, icy slopes". I'd almost bet that a slip of one in such a rope team e.g. on the north slope of Brana (that's where the fatal accident happened over the weekend) would end with the fall of the whole team. It would be nice to hear the opinion of some mountain rescuer or alpine instructor on this topic...
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| som6923. 02. 2012 19:35:06 |
May the beautiful Rinke forgive me, because this has nothing to do with them; I'd ask users of this forum not to misuse the word RECESSION, because gear like: helmet, ice axe and crampons in winter conditions is not measured in a couple thousand EUR, nor a couple hundred euros, this is gear that ultimately you can borrow for pennies and please no excuses.
Otherwise, one more anecdote from the late Tomaž: when he was looking for sponsors for an expedition to the Himalayas, a well-known Gorenjska manager replied: what are you going to the Himalayas for, right under your nose you have Grintavec, up and down three times and you'll have the same altitude gain.
That's all about wishes, possibilities and recession.
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| Pohodnica5623. 02. 2012 19:59:50 |
I really admire you all who venture into the high mountains, which I will never experience. I only manage smaller hills. Thanks for the nice pictures, on which the eyes rest. And good luck to all further on.
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| -26. 02. 2012 19:29:49 |
Today on Koroška Rinka. Conditions against expectations almost ideal. Snow in Turški žleb super towards the top but collapsed a few times. On the summit we were three + Logarska planinka who joined us at Okrešlju.
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| gj12. 05. 2012 17:39:43 |
Abrahamovci excellent tour, congrats. Ljaneja, I think from Turska gora you can't see Češka koča and Ledin, or am I wrong? No offense. Nice greeting and more such tours.
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| lijaneja12. 05. 2012 17:59:31 |
gj, thanks for the warning. Of course this pic was taken from Kranjska Rinka.
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| muša6. 06. 2012 08:51:29 |
Anyone recently gone to Ledinski vrh or Koroška Rinka from Ledin? Wonder if still some snow on that side, 23.6. leading group tour and interested in conditions.
Thanks and mountaineer's regards, Muša
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| ljubitelj gora6. 06. 2012 09:09:14 |
If it helps you, situation 5.6. Photographed from Kladivo.
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| Stumby6. 06. 2012 23:10:25 |
Does anyone know what the condition is in the wall of Mala Rinke from Okrešelj... is it dry?
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