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| CarpeDiem24723. 09. 2011 07:15:50 |
Bravo, Panda, just open the thing! 
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| krasovc23. 09. 2011 07:48:55 |
Something makes me think. You say that Lojz probably doesn't tear it, but it seems strange to me how the wood came from the barracks, and it was neatly stored. I also have pictures, difference in years. But really the snow ate the wood, there was a nice pile 4 years ago. Now almost nothing. Every time I went by I got the feeling to circle around the barracks. Believe what you want, I think it's a big, huge shame what's happening. Shame they didn't arrange it like on Crni prsti.
It would be nice, anyway, to renovate such objects, for the memory of those who "paid" those barracks with great pains. You aren't over the border and, maybe, don't understand what occupation is, as it's still happening now.
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| dj1223. 09. 2011 08:51:43 |
I propose like this - us "Slovenes" are approx 2 million and if each contributes only 1 EURO it will gather 2 little millions - with that money quite something could be renovated at Morbegni. LP
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| CarpeDiem24723. 09. 2011 09:00:33 |
I'm prepared to contribute much more than 1 €! 
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 09:21:20 |
The Italians built Morbegno with a precise purpose. Morbegna was a political statement carved in stone. Morbegan was a monument to the Italian conquest of our national space.
Why should we restore the monument to our defeat?
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| zvončnica23. 09. 2011 09:28:07 |
So that we can use it usefully, @viharnik, he wrote nicely, for ski tourers and alpinists in case of bad weather, let's leave that malicious history, live now, in this moment, don't have hatred in ourselves, but a nice thought for every day given to us.
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 09:38:04 |
Because of naivety it's not smart to forget history. Some things just have a negative connotation. Even names and words. Say barracks or Morbegna. These two words sound bad, there's something negative about them.
Whoever wants to renovate, let them renovate some object that carries a positive message. Say Stanič's shelter, which also needs careful hands and deserves it much more. And it's even higher than Morbegna.
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| CarpeDiem24723. 09. 2011 10:07:41 |
I don't feel like reviving old hatreds, grudges etc. We just have to lead the water to our mill, use what someone else already designed, renovate it a bit and use it for productive purposes! Not that now, because it's Italian, let it collapse to hell, but we'll enjoy watching it collapse - stone by stone, hello??
@Žan - higher than Morbegno???
EDIT: Oops, I thought it was about Stanič's hut! 
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 10:20:07 |
Yes, Stanič's shelter is considerably higher than Morbegna.
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| turbo23. 09. 2011 10:29:28 |
Yes, much higher. Only the Aljaž Tower is higher 
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| adnap23. 09. 2011 10:37:50 |
Jakob Aljaž had a shelter carved and equipped 55 m below the summit on the south side in 1895; it is named after Valentin Stanič. It was blasted and hollowed out by Janez Klinar - Požganc and Kobar from Mojstrana. The shelter measures 2.4 × 2.2 × 2 m and had enough space for 8 sitting or 16 standing people. Originally it also had wooden doors, benches, a table and a chair.
source: Wikipedia
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| lingo23. 09. 2011 11:11:41 |
There was also an Italian hut on Dolič, an Italian post on Prehodavci, and posts Porezen, Možnica, Komna, Bogatin, Lepena, Črna Prst, all military objects. How can you get at least some compensation from someone who occupied your land for 25 years and never paid anything for it - if not by exploiting at least what they left behind? We don't need to be grateful only for the built roads, mulatjere and more, even the Doblar hydropower plant on the Soča was, say, built by Mussolini, and the electricity from it hasn't smelled bad to us for all these 70 years
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 11:38:17 |
It's true that many of our huts are made from Italian military objects. There's nothing wrong with that in itself.
But you have to know that Morbegna was not built for military needs. It doesn't occupy any military strategic point, it was built in peacetime exclusively for propaganda purposes. The Italians staked their claim with it. I think that's why it doesn't carry a positive message and doesn't deserve renovation. Nearby are Planika and Tržaška hut, probably no need to build another hut on foundations with such bad karma.
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| Scabiosa23. 09. 2011 11:57:03 |
The location of Morbegna is superb. The construction was wonderful and would deserve renovation so much.
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| CarpeDiem24723. 09. 2011 12:06:16 |
If that's the case, then let's also make a petition to change the name of the TRŽAŠKA hut, but such behavior is completely counterproductive and pointless for me. We need to look forward (renovate the thing before it collapses by itself), not back and revive old unpleasant events!!! 
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 12:14:17 |
The Glava in Zaplanja is the one with a nice location and wonderful view, Morbegna just appropriated it.
Italians are not always friendly to beautiful buildings. They demolished the mosque in Log pod Mangartom without a bad conscience. Slovenes have always taken good care of the Russian chapel and it is still in exemplary condition today.
I suggest rebuilding the small mosque on the edge of the military cemetery under Mangart instead of Morbegna.
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| pinkerton23. 09. 2011 12:14:39 |
Žan, just jumping in regarding history - all the mentioned objects except Bogatin and Komna (which were on "our Austrian side") from which the huts originated were built only after the war, so none like Morbegna from military needs. But it had the most strategic (highest) guard point of all on the newly annexed sacre confini. Great similarity also with Krn, which @lingo missed. The hut on Krn stands on the foundations of a monument-shrine built in memory of the Italian conquerors of Krn, on a visit check out the platform and stairs, one large stone eagle from the portal is still rolling a few dozen meters lower on the scree. Monte Nero was a symbol of their military success, the hut on exactly the same spot is a boomerang returned to Italian arrogance, not bad, that's good karma for US.
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 12:19:52 |
No misunderstanding. There's nothing wrong with the name of the Tržaška hut. There's also nothing wrong with Italians and we shouldn't see them as our eternal enemies. Quite the opposite!
But it's wrong to renovate their military monument (where no Italian or our soldier fell) almost at the top of our national mountain.
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| Žan23. 09. 2011 12:28:41 |
Italians bravely conquered the top of Krn and defended it for a long time. That must be acknowledged and they deserve a memorial plaque at the top.
But they cowardly occupied the southern slopes of Triglav after the end of the war. They can't expect us to applaud them for that or even maintain their former barracks, which doesn't even have our name. No need to demolish it, but renovation would almost be a sin.
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| Jani 5523. 09. 2011 12:53:26 |
Hey Slovenians, let's burn, demolish everything from the times of WWI and WWII, as well as from the Illyrian provinces, Maria Theresa, in short everything before independence.
But on the site of Morbegna let's build the much-needed new modern mountain station that won't need to be rebuilt all the time due to avalanches (Zasavska hut), provided it has better sanitary facilities than Kredarica.
Long live Morbegna!!!
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