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| Hribolaznik1. 02. 2022 11:03:10 |
Excellently written, kudos to Mitja. I've already hiked a lot, climbed several ferratas with "E" sections, descended ice from Marmolada, yet I don't feel prepared for winter Triglav ascent. First winter tours on Begunjščica, Vrtača, Mala Mojstrovka, etc. And ice axes and ice crampons, which I see are very popular, I absolutely won't need and I'm not bothering with them.
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| 1mitjas1. 02. 2022 11:09:33 |
I put via ferratas in there, because I think it's the safest way to see your reaction on exposed spots and prepare for them.
These via ferratas will give you a basic feel for your reaction to 'air' under your feet. If that doesn't bother you, you can tackle the secured paths in our mountains.
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| Trobec1. 02. 2022 11:32:15 |
@hribolaznik, I'll say no to these suggestions twice. Or at least not in exactly that form.
- Selling "licenses": against, because it just introduces commercialization, like paid parking lots whose almost exclusive purpose is profiteering (e.g. municipalities), not reducing traffic. Number of permits can be limited even if free. Like on Teide. This approach might even make sense. But then only possible in summer, in winter I doubt a guard will stand checking permits in all conditions. In summer there's another problem, more paths... But that would probably still be easier.
- Significant increase in overnight prices: same as before, just commercialization (mountains only for richer), huts still fully booked. And if they can't fix toilets now... it's not exclusively a lack of money problem. Maybe reduce hut capacities? But no one will suggest that...
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| _sandra_1. 02. 2022 14:51:14 |
@lingo: I'd hold back on commenting, but your post bothered me.. how you value yourself..., well this champagne for 2 eur I carried 5 hours to Kredarica and since I value dejan as a person and his company, we drank it together. With champagnes for 100 eur we can argue in the valley, no need to hike 5 hours up for that! Good luck 
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| lingo2. 02. 2022 07:39:42 |
sandra good job because you carried it 5 hours, it surely was good for toasting.
You know, years ago we celebrated NYE at Kredarica and agreed everyone brings something. The one who brought wine put two bottles of cheapest "starčak" on table. He said wine is wine anyway and waste to spend more euro. But he had to carry it 5 hours and in glasses it was still crap. We grumpy because we weren't worth that extra euro.
In short, you can carry it around the world and it stays crap. Good only for those who don't care if it's even made from grapes. Nice that dejan, whom you wrote with small letter, you value so highly.
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| redbull2. 02. 2022 09:01:37 |
Otherwise Primož, those Championi were 2.99 eur, Radgonska 7 eur. Would buy Biser for 4 eur but they didn't have it. What prices does Zemono have, so next time I order from them?
Better to return to conditions.
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| iztok19602. 02. 2022 09:29:43 |
Dejan, based on comments from our old acquaintance (under new nick, but he's old, and I don't know him) and since I guess your birthday is same as mine (24.jan), next year tell me, I always have some silver sparkling wine at home. And as you wrote, back to conditions.
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| ejti2. 02. 2022 14:36:45 |
I think under the nick "lingo" it's not Primož A., but quite the opposite - someone who obviously had quite a grudge against him. Browse a bit through lingo's old posts.
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| lingo2. 02. 2022 14:40:04 |
hahaha mountain sherlocks
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| Trobec2. 02. 2022 14:50:43 |
I agree, bad wine you can carry wherever, it won't get good. But equally important, price doesn't define quality. At the old company once for New Year we shared bottles at 15€. But what does that help... if the wine was spoiled! 
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| iztok19602. 02. 2022 15:33:59 |
Because Dejan wrote Primož's name in his reply, I immediately checked who user lingo is - profile had only 1 pic, Primož in the middle, surrounded by the same pic around it. Some 2 hours after my post, the pic disappeared from profile. And Sherlock tried to unravel it and lo and behold, user primož doesn't exist on COVID thread, though we all know he posted countless contributions. And Ejti, if you research backwards, under lingo's posts you really find someone who could have had Primož in his stomach, but only if searching by the only possible system on this site, by COVID, Osp topics...
So if someone else, then someone else must ask how that's possible.
Also, my offer to Dejan was only because comment implied price determines quality - I don't drink champagne, but know silver sparkling is good and I'm ready to give, not sell, it to Dejan next year.
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| ejti2. 02. 2022 17:41:34 |
Let it be, whoever wants...
Cheers to Dejan and the team, and safe steps.
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| xerian2. 02. 2022 19:33:01 |
Well, that wine is just fine 
Real die-hard mountaineers know that wasting bucks on expensive wines isn't the point of mountaineering...
Because if you value yourself as a mountaineer, with what you save on cheaper wine better buy an extra tank of fuel for your steel horse and go to Triglav a couple more times 
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| skalar503. 02. 2022 00:58:51 |
interesting ... on a forum about conditions in the mountains writing (also) about wine, sparkling wines ... whoever knows the field a bit could only smile ... and I'm not talking about tastes (say about sales hit, proverbially "good" tank semi-dry silver Radgonski sparkling) or reading champagne for 2 euros (whole Champagne would grab their head) but about simplification. What is expensive and what cheap (not valued) bottle of Slovenian sparkling (or still) wine ... etc. Up here I'd still rather read current info from various mountain trails ... no hard feelings
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| dprapr3. 02. 2022 09:14:24 |
It's also interesting that you prefer discussing these champagnes rather than the advice Mitja listed for you. Too painful, right.
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| iztok19603. 02. 2022 12:46:13 |
@dprapr, no, I didn't comment because some Mitja's advice hurt me, I just think I don't have enough experience to comment in detail and because I don't go where I don't feel qualified enough. What I do for my "taste" is enough for me. But I read all comments from more qualified ones and I agree with the remarks, as they are logical, Mitja's contribution welcome, at least for guys like me.
But it will always bother me if someone imposes their view of celebration on someone. But here I end, because it's a fact that I often get angry at off-topic posts too, this time I allowed myself an exception, not because I always agree with Dejan, simply because I think some posts are inappropriate and it's time for some ordinary "hiker" to give his view.
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| UROS113. 03. 2022 19:14:55 |
Bravo Dejan! You had top weather too... Excellent
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| UROS116. 03. 2022 10:32:21 |
Has anyone of you been up from Pokljuka these days? How's the path... Thanks for info. If someone went there. Best Uros
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| Filip 11117. 03. 2022 09:31:12 |
Hi,
thinking about ascent to Kredarica this weekend.
I don't have much experience, but I have ice axe and crampons and good will, so how dangerous is the ascent?
Thanks in advance!
Filip
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