What's going on with hribi.net?!
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| sirt114. 08. 2014 09:02:09 |
What about mountain pastures? Mountain pastures are areas in the hills where they graze cattle. Mountain pastures are not mountain tops, but mainly in smaller or larger valleys, basins.
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| VanSims14. 08. 2014 22:12:00 |
Under the term "gornik" I imagine an equipped person, with backpack, in mountain boots and all necessary mountaineering gear.
When I hear "planinec" then a stereotypical image of an older man in green-brown clothes (preferably loden pants) with that green or gray pointed cap and badges in it and with a hiking stick appears before my eyes. 
Probably also a member of the narrow PZS leadership. There they all sit as planininci anyway!
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| Ruzowski14. 08. 2014 22:36:49 |
So I'm right when I equate Kekec with planinec? But we are not KEKCS...
I also think things in this direction are not yet settled. "Gornik" seems a decent word to me. Mountaineering Association of Slovenia..hm, why not?
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| VanSims14. 08. 2014 22:46:48 |
@mukl: you have milk around the mouth, if you don't know that 'mountains' is said 'planine' in Serbian or Croatian.
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| sirt115. 08. 2014 11:20:59 |
At 12.00 on channel 1 there's the film Triglav. Maybe the film about the symbol of Slovenia will clarify some of this?
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| julius15. 08. 2014 14:15:32 |
@VanSims-, since you're already arguing about milkiness, here are next questions for you.
What does the acronym SPD mean?
When was SPD established?
When you answer the above questions, many things will become clearer to you.
And also: where did our mountain pastures come from, e.g.: Vodiška pl., Planina za Skalo,
Planina Lepoč, Velika pl., Planina polje ....?
Have a nice weekend.
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| pohodni15. 08. 2014 14:41:52 |
From my side I see things something like this: Mountain pastures are where there's ground cover, can also be rock still overgrown with grassy scree, forest or low shrubbery. When bare rock starts prevailing, which is usually somewhere above the tree line or at height around 1800 meters, (not necessarily, since this border can vary a lot in height), the rugged terrain begins.
By the same logic I also separate planinec and gornik. All I meet for example on Velika Planina are planinci for me that moment, even though they might otherwise also be alpinists. But if I meet someone on top of Grintovec, Ojstrica, Triglav..., then that's definitely gornik for me, since in the end they climbed to the top of the mountain.
Planinec and gornik I thus separate mainly based on terrain or area where the person is currently located and moving. Acquired knowledge and experience have no role in this naming.
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| Keko15. 08. 2014 14:57:38 |
I agree with pohodni, he hit the nail on the head.
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| IgorZlodej15. 08. 2014 15:32:22 |
So we're chameleons  , eh come on.
Everyone is what they feel they are. But there are way more criteria than green or gray ground.
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| pohodni15. 08. 2014 16:22:07 |
I admit, my definition of planinec and gornik is set very roughly. Of course it matters if someone got to Triglav from Kredarica or via the North Triglav Face. But when I stand on top of Triglav it doesn't interest me that much. All who stand on the top that moment are gorniki for me, regardless of which side and how demanding path they climbed to it. I wouldn't delve into further analysis and pigeonholing.
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| stargojzar15. 08. 2014 17:04:02 |
Planinec is a generic name for hikers in the hills and it's not any definition who is who by abilities or knowledge. Every gornik or alpinist must first go through the planinski world to get to that rocky one, so it's not a chameleon because of that
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| mukl15. 08. 2014 17:42:45 |
Oh man, with what and what definitions do people bother, whether you're planinec or gornik or whatever, for fuck's sake...., and do you realize that with such pigeonholing you show your narrowness and pettiness?
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| ljubitelj gora15. 08. 2014 19:53:42 |
Journalists really brainwash, if anyone watched today's doc.film Triglav they didn't define themselves, and they also climbed Slovenska smer. They used to carry everything up from bike to lojtra and similar, hadn't even heard of any helmet, and today whoever doesn't have helmet is already a big issue 
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| pikica115. 08. 2014 23:18:56 |
But I know there are many such hill folk in the mountains who aren't interested in various titles at all. They know how much they can do and where they fit and rarely get into trouble. They enjoy when they easily walk on maintained hiking paths. If the path takes them into easier pathless terrain they come alive, they don't fear rock faces either. They greet people they meet, are considerate to nature and animals. And what title do you need for all that? You just have to be human that's it
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| Keko16. 08. 2014 00:12:17 |
In this polemic it's not so much about titles that individual mountain, pasture, hill lovers have. It's more about polemic around general naming of someone who goes to hills, pastures, mountains. What stings the eye most is that some organization allows itself to forbid the use of some general, often used word "gornik", if we all know we have mountains, hills and pastures here. What would it look like if now some other organization allowed itself to internally forbid the use of the word "planinec", and some third one say forbid the use of "hribovec". What's wrong with using different words for the same thing. In the end narrowness and smallness, as someone stated above, could be blamed only on the organization that allows such prohibitions of certain words and thus shows its own limitation.
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| onsight17. 08. 2014 04:45:16 |
I think you guys gathered here are suitable people to help me with my dilemma. I have some pics from various hills, pastures, mountains...
I'd like to take them to work to show colleagues, but where should I burn them? Should I use CD, compact disc or CD? Definitely don't want to burn pics from mountains on the wrong media so colleagues see pastures instead of mountains..or worse - hills. 
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| zippo17. 08. 2014 11:57:25 |
Use USB stick if you don't want to throw money away
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| JusAvgustin17. 08. 2014 12:36:18 |
or put them on Dropbox and you don't need media at all
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| serznoz30. 01. 2015 09:29:23 |
Administrator deletes comment that had 50 pluses. Funny?!
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