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| krasovc28. 08. 2012 14:34:20 |
Shoe the dog and drag it with you to Triglav. Doesn't something smart come to your head? It's annoying to listen to the dog's barking, especially where people go to enjoy peace. I think you need a bit more sex, it would help. And let it run free, I recommend. Personally better if it doesn't come into my hands, there would be crying again.
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| Zebdi28. 08. 2012 14:52:53 |
Hehe, another local sheriff...
..and to Triglav one goes to enjoy peace, that's epic too 
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| _sandra_28. 08. 2012 15:00:25 |
@krasovc: better neither dog nor human meets you, because such writing doesn't belong here... and true, it's hard to enjoy peace on Triglav if there's so much folk up there always.. 
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| krasovc28. 08. 2012 15:15:58 |
I write what I think. What people think they don't say. The animal belongs in its space, it's not a problem itself, the problem is the owners, yes, something's missing in them.. Not always but mostly.
Zebdi, I was on Triglav, mostly alone on the summit. So no lack of peace.
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| pikica128. 08. 2012 15:26:53 |
Did they all run away when you got up there Good thing otherwise there would be crying again
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| VanSims28. 08. 2012 16:01:01 |
I agree with all who think that a dog is not for Triglav. We already debated this and I thought the debate was closed once and for all.
User poloneza1 has no compassion for his dog, nor for other people and doesn't realize that with his behavior he endangers himself too. Or maybe we got a new provoker in this thread; we already had one.
Only on the Slovenian forum is such a debate possible. Recently we learned that even cats are carried on via ferratas (how many were already on Triglav?),...
Abroad the answer (if anyone even asked): unanimous NO. Which was actually here too before poloneza1 chimed in, then the dog-draggers everywhere got wings. Abroad sometimes official bodies even check people's behavior on such paths and not just warn like here but actually fine them.
Krasovc's comments are perfectly readable; I agree with what he wrote except that I injure the dog just enough to get rid of it; whining is when the irresponsible owner falls into my hands. I too had relative peace on Triglav one sunny Saturday in June.
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| dragica.gnjezda@gmail.com28. 08. 2012 16:20:29 |
What luck that we're not all made from the same mold.
zebdi, you were wrong. 2 sheriffs?
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| Zebdi28. 08. 2012 16:44:28 |
Nope, I didn't make a mistake. VanSims didn't suggest more sex to anyone, let alone look for conflict.
Otherwise I also agree that the path to Triglav isn't really suitable for a dog. I also agree with krasovc that the problem isn't in the animal, but in the owner 
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| dragica.gnjezda@gmail.com28. 08. 2012 17:03:29 |
I also agree that it's hardly suitable for a dog. But unlike those who are horrified, I admire them. They are capable of something I am not. The owner already knows what the dog is capable of. Obviously the dog enjoys it too, otherwise you wouldn't even get him on such a path by accident. You can't force a dog to do something he's afraid of.
vansims is maybe really nice and friendly as maja says, but I would recommend a bit less "professorial attitude".
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| poloneza129. 08. 2012 10:00:59 |
I'm a bit surprised by the extremely low culture and inability to restrain one's own thoughts, even more words, of some hikers (if we can even call them that). Such statements are for home (for the WC), and such individuals are only suitable for there!
If the dog climbs where even some such quasi-hiker can't, probably the owner isn't to blame. If the dog has the ability to be an avalanche dog (which it is), probably the owner isn't to blame either. Probably you'd be damn happy about it then, right???
Let the hoof judge the shoes....
LP
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| cebelca29. 08. 2012 10:32:55 |
I'm really surprised how on this forum you can't ask anything without at the same time getting a bunch of value (mis)judgments from people who don't know you at all. AnjaK for example just ASKED if the path is suitable for a dog and overnight became the most irresponsible dog owner, just because she asks at all. To me, that seems precisely responsible, to inquire beforehand.
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| John29. 08. 2012 11:12:24 |
OK, question up or down. Hand on heart, AnjaK's question was really a bit "weird" maybe even provocative yeah  Anyone who intends to climb Triglav checks the path themselves on maps (special ones), on the internet (pictures, gps, all kinds of maps) and based on all collected data can assess themselves if the path is suitable for a dog. But I don't understand those dog-haters who are a priori against dogs in the mountains and hills.
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| AnjaK29. 08. 2012 12:52:05 |
cebelca just took the words right out of my mouth... purely informatively I was interested if anyone has gone to Triglav with a dog. I didn't want to provoke any nasty debates and judging people based on what's written. I know what it looks like to go to Triglav and I'm aware that going up with a dog isn't child's play. Given the number of pictures I've seen, where all people have gone to the mountains with dogs and what kinds of equipment they sell (http://www.kibuba.com/index.php?&cID=7&scID=47&pID=1800) I just wanted to find out informatively what experiences they had with hiking specifically to Triglav with dogs (or in the direction of Triglav). We have also gone with the dog to many mountains and I know what he's capable of. I know, and also as a responsible dog owner I will in no way endanger the safety of the dog, myself and all other people. So that I won't be reported as a dog torturer now just because of the question. PEACE!
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| VanSims29. 08. 2012 18:33:22 |
I'm a bit surprised at how poloneza1 misleads people by describing the tour with his dog to Triglav, but doesn't say that it's an avalanche dog. If you hadn't blabbed, the consequences could be catastrophic for someone who follows your 'advice'.
Avalanche dogs I believe have to do at least a few such tours a year but probably on less crowded mountains and in appropriate (summer) time.
Shoes like the ones you described, even a hoof would judge wrongly.
As for Anja's question, it's customary to look around the forum a bit to see if such or similar answer already exists. That was the only wrong thing. But I won't judge her dog-handling skills nor whether she realizes what kind of mountain Triglav is.
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| krasovc29. 08. 2012 19:27:30 |
I wrote a bit for provocation too, and added, in my opinion, some truth. Van Sims writes correctly.
Otherwise I know well that the problem is in the master not the dog. Some men just have a big dog because they feel stronger that way, maybe because otherwise they wouldn't be (they show muscles they don't have between their legs). And that's where the problem arises. Same with women, I know men are sometimes big in words, and only there, so women get nervous that way, because there's no action, and we get troublesome dogs out. Unfortunately there are quite a few, if we don't get them in the hills, according to the survey, 55% of hikers will be happier. Don't you notice when people with dogs come somewhere, how most avoid them. From that you can understand what people don't say and how you have to know with dogs, because it's not just respect for those few dogs, because there are way more people who don't like animals..
Well, yeah, if you like to show what muscles your dog has, that's the problem I wrote about above. Just this: keep them at least, as per law, on a leash, since you don't show your own t.. but keep it in the cage.
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| ejti1. 09. 2012 22:00:18 |
For Turbot: That retriever on Črnivec is actually a female retriever, her name is Kaja and she's super friendly
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| ejti1. 09. 2012 22:13:07 |
And also to "krasovec":
Not only do you not like dogs and their keepers, you don't care much about Slovenian language either . On this forum we can read all sorts of language messes, but yours is at the very top. With "Z psmi" you really outdid yourself!
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| pohodnik112. 09. 2012 00:07:23 |
ejti... and so what if he expressed himself nicely in the language he speaks and uses at home. Everyone can say their opinion, right!? If he thinks you just don't drag a dog to Triglav, that's his opinion...
But it's true that trained rescue dogs are one thing... dragging mutts everywhere just so dog owners boast where their pooch has been... no hard feelings!
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