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SamoK28. 10. 2015 16:25:57
Jax - I agree on the first point. Dogs that chase cyclists are really annoying. And yes, accidents can happen. But that's basically a different topic from fear of a dog you meet in the mountains, right?
On the second, it's like this. You won't end up in hospital just from the bite, unless you're a very modern person who goes to hospital for a tick or sneezing twice in a row.
The other is if you fall. There I completely agree. But again - my experience is that people are a bigger problem. Twice as a cyclist I ended up in hospital, both times because of people. Never because of a dog, though I've met hundreds. Those serious ones.
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gorolazka28. 10. 2015 17:21:52
Because of a bite that draws blood you'll be smart enough to go to the hospital, because of the risk of rabies and other diseases. Who guarantees you that the dog that bit you was healthy? It looks like it's my problem because a dog bit me and I still fear dogs?
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 17:40:11
Hey, if you like to be afraid, go ahead! To me, fear seems one of the dumbest things a person can do. Completely unnecessary and useless.
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gorolazka28. 10. 2015 17:47:25
SamoK so if a dog bites your daughter, you won't take her to the doctor? Will you explain to her that it's something normal and that she's to blame? You wouldn't glare at every off-leash dog next time?
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 17:51:42
1. I don't know if I'd take her or not. I'd judge then.
2. I won't tell her she's to blame. Why are you burdened with guilt? I know nothing about guilt.
3. I won't glare at an off-leash dog, why?

Anyway, no dog will bite my daughter because I raise her to handle dogs. And not just dogs, also people, which is much harder.
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jax28. 10. 2015 18:00:44
Since I see we don't understand each other, just this: sure, if a dog bites a cyclist in the ankle, he probably won't go to hospital. But the catch is that a dog hanging around cyclists' pedals will sooner or later take one down. That will be much less pleasant and might end up there.
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 18:02:53
jax, you read poorly. I agreed with you on that.
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marinka6729. 10. 2015 06:36:24
Once again: what does the law say about unleashed dogs?
And I would ask for instructions on how to teach my granddaughter to handle dogs. She is 6 years old.zmeden
Joking aside. SamoK, obviously your child hasn't been bitten by a dog yet and I hope it never will. If it ever happens, then report how you handled it.
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grega_z_brega29. 10. 2015 06:55:48
The Animal Protection Act states:


Article 5, paragraph 23:
A dangerous dog is one that has bitten a human or an animal. Dangerous dogs do not include:
– official police or military dogs whose bite results from performing official duties;
– dogs whose bite results from unauthorized entry into a building or fenced land marked with a warning sign at the entrance.

Article 11
The keeper of pets must prevent the birth of unwanted animals by ensuring isolation, contraception, sterilization or castration.
The animal keeper must ensure the animal is not dangerous to the environment through proper upbringing and training or other measures.
The dog keeper must ensure physical protection of the dog in public by keeping it on a leash.

Article 12
Animal keepers and transporters must ensure physical protection of dangerous animals.
Keepers of dangerous dogs must ensure physical protection in one of the following ways:
– dogs on a leash and muzzled,
– locked in a kennel or building,
– in a fenced area with a fence at least 1.8 m high, marked with a warning sign at the entrance.
Dangerous dogs must not be given to persons under 16 to lead.

Check what local regulations say about it.
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GregorC29. 10. 2015 13:26:48
Samo, it has bitten quite concretely, so the ice axe marks were visible in the pedal. If that's just a warning...eek Then I don't know what real biting means to you.
And if a dog (or any animal) bites you, you go to the doctor for rabies shot, if you have any common sense.
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marinka6729. 10. 2015 15:41:40
Thanks Grega from the shore. I think further debate is not necessary.
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nipecar8. 11. 2015 10:32:33
Where with the dog? Yesterday on Črni prsti with a pug and a border collie, both without any problems mežikanje
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gofra7. 12. 2015 17:16:33
We have just started hiking in the mountains well (well, it's been about two years), and so far we have visited:

- Kamniško sedlo (KSA)
- Savinjsko sedlo via Okrešelj (KSA)
- Grintovec (KSA)
- Peca (KSA)
- Raduha (KSA)
- Begunjščica (KV)
- Košuta ridge (Veliki vrh, Kladivo...) KV
- Golica (KV)
- Viševnik (JA)
- Vodnikov dom (from Rudno polje via Studorski preval) (JA)
- Triglav Lakes Valley to Prehodavci (from Planina Blato) (JA)
- Pogačnikov dom at Kriške podi (JA)
- Ratitovec (Škofjeloško and Cerkljansko hribovje)
- On Pokljuka we are regulars (Blejska Koča at Lipanca, Debela peč...)

... nowhere any problems, from the technical difficulty point of view, and most peaks are around +/-2000 m. I would emphasize that the prerequisite for joint enjoyment is a properly raised dog, an aware owner capable of sober judgment and good physical condition for both.

Additionally, I would mention a couple of rules we have for such trips (maybe useful for someone):

- dog on leash. For easier trips, regular leash is enough. For longer, more demanding ones, I definitely recommend buying a dog harness with attachment at the back (especially nice if the dog can work and knows how to pull), to which an elastic leash is attached that you clip around your waist. This setup allows the dog to be attached all the time, and it can also help the owner by pulling if trained. Descents, especially steeper ones, are a bit different. Dog pulling can even be dangerous there.

- dog must be under verbal control! Whoever can only control the dog with a leash, better stay home. Generally, descents are more problematic than ascents, as there's risk the dog pulls you somewhere (dog will usually be much faster downhill). In such cases, I unclip the waist belt and hold it in hand. In danger, I can release it. Even better if you teach the dog to walk behind you. Such situations don't allow attachment in practice, so I generally avoid them if possible, but a well-raised dog (and well-raised owner!) won't have problems this way. But you can always encounter wildlife - dog's reaction depends mainly on breed. Dogs with strong hunting instinct need even stricter control (bird dogs, hunting dogs, polar breeds...).

- always watch the dog. What it's doing, what interests it, how it behaves, what signals it gives. Good to be one step ahead (especially with frequent wildlife encounters), to avoid unpleasant surprises. Also, dog is not a machine. Dog gets tired too, and sharp scree or jagged rocks can be terribly annoying for it. Same for mental state - if the dog is scared and doesn't want ladders, steps, ledges... I never force it!

- always assess the trip well before going and never leave things to chance. In practice: figuring out how much water needed, where water is in nature, wildlife, livestock, shade, is hut open, how crowded the path, terrain type, potential dangers (I can put on helmet myself, but not on dog) etc.

- never provoke the dog or "encourage" or in any way stimulate it to be too interested in surrounding fauna. It happens we stop, sit and watch chamois herd below us, but never force nature with our presence more than necessary. Try to respect what's given and enjoy all beauties as calmly and quietly as possible.

- in case of meeting descending hikers, ALWAYS stop, step aside and wait for them to pass. So far in encounters, I've never experienced anything but delighted faces of hikers, but you never know who's among them. Someone might be scared, someone uncomfortable.

- never allow dogs to bathe in lakes or ponds (especially protected ones) where not explicitly allowed. Micro-ecosystems are very fragile, small imbalance can destroy them...

- even in nature, it's polite to clean up after dog's needs. If nothing else, good to move the poop at least off the path, if not elsewhere.

- good to have extra gear and supplies for dog: mentioned harness + belt, for sharp rocks suitable booties, ENOUGH WATER + some treat can do wonders. Dog burns calories too.

I could write more here, but for now enough. As owner of two female Siberian Huskies, I can only say that since we started visiting our peaks more regularly, my life has changed. It's fantastic when you see the dog really enjoys with you... able to sit on ledge or summit for half an hour staring motionless into distances below. And no, I'm not one who keeps dog leashed nonstop no matter what - in controlled conditions I sometimes unleash them briefly, but exceptions - attaching a couple of our shared moments!

Best. F
Playing by the water1
Ara enjoys the view (Košuta)2
Enjoying the view (Veliko Kladivo)3
Rest and well-deserved snack at the hut by Triglav Lakes4
Directional misunderstanding (Grintovec)5
Triglav Lakes6
Towards Vodnikov dom7
Winter descent from Visevnik8
View into the distance (Kamnisko sedlo)9
Awaiting the sunset (Ratitovec)10
Studorski preval11
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grega_z_brega7. 12. 2015 19:44:43
good towing service this nasmeh
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gofra7. 12. 2015 19:52:40
Conditional! Lately no pulling nasmeh
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grega_z_brega7. 12. 2015 19:58:38
Are they striking? Aren't they police dogs? nasmeh
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gofra8. 12. 2015 08:58:57
Sometimes a little motivation from my side is needed - atypical, but that's how it is nasmeh
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lino8. 12. 2015 11:14:08
Gofra, you have very nice dogs. Take care of them. Lp!
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gofra8. 12. 2015 15:13:13
Thanks, glad!
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sunshine8. 12. 2015 20:08:23
Gofra, where did you buy the dog backpack?
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