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Where to go with a dog?

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SamoK28. 10. 2015 07:25:18
For God's sake I don't understand why some people fear dogs. Too strict upbringing?
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vandica128. 10. 2015 07:34:19
I do, because one such "he won't do anything" bit me in the leg.
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grega_z_brega28. 10. 2015 07:45:37
That's really not hard to understand, people have different fears and reasons for them. Vandica1 already mentioned one.
Otherwise such "he won't do anything" also have furry ears, like all other dogs.
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 07:47:55
Yes, sure, but that's one in a thousand. If you feared everything where there's one per mille dangerous, you could fear everything! With a bit of knowledge of dog psychology it's also quite easy to see which dog is potentially dangerous. There are really so few that it's not worth talking about. Really, I repeat, I don't understand how you can fear all dogs because of such a small number of "potentially dangerous" ones! This modern human timidity is really sad.
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vandica128. 10. 2015 07:55:19
Just this data for 2013 and I think the number isn't small, especially since not everyone reports the incident: Last year there were 1657 reported dog bites in Slovenia, this year already 821.
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 08:04:57
At first glance these numbers are big, but if we consider how many dogs there are, they're not even. Besides, I bet a large part of bites are from provoking the dog by humans (similarly people attribute danger to bears after harassing them in their habitat) or it's a "warning" bite that's not dangerous. Dogs, like many other animals, first warn by just firmly "grabbing" with jaws, not really biting. A real dog bite is a very serious thing, and there surely aren't a thousand such cases per year. (If you have more precise data, please tell.)
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 08:13:48
One more thing. One of the biggest dangers we expose ourselves to is driving a car. And yet I constantly see (many) people speeding, running red lights, overtaking where visibility is poor, cutting off, and driving in bad weather as if the sun is shining and the road is dry. Very many people drive as if they were alone on the road. And yet no one is afraid of car driving, on the contrary, they take it as recreation. I even know people who drive for relaxation. Then they fear puppies, bears, spiders, and their own shadow.
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vandica128. 10. 2015 08:26:23
I don't have data, I took this from http://www.siol.net/novice/slovenija/2013/07/v_sloveniji_zivi_skoraj_cetrt_milijona_psov.aspx

and also, I didn't provoke the dog and the bite wasn't just a warning one.
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mukica28. 10. 2015 09:21:54
I agree with SmoK, there are way more other dangers than dog bites... true though that everyone defends their own...
Statistics also show lots of police interventions in fights, violence, family abuse.. also here one should think hardzmeden that worries me much more than animalseek
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GregorC28. 10. 2015 13:27:44
Samo, people are also afraid of e.g. darkness, which is even less dangerous than dogs. They just are afraid and there's nothing you can do about it.
Dog bites are much more common than statistics show. And interestingly, most bites are from breeds like golden retrievers and similar "friendly" breeds, not, say, from boxers (one of the most beautiful breeds to me, but also demanding).
I'm not really afraid of dogs, but I don't exactly feel comfortable when a bigger dog comes towards me with no owner in sight. As a pedestrian I have no bad experiences, but it's different as a cyclist. But here the dog reacts to pedaling the bike, which it can see as kicking. So under Blegoš I already jumped off the bike in front of a loose dog to the other side so the bike was between us. I jumped just in time to pull my leg away, so it bit the pedal. It didn't respond to the owner's calls and she barely dragged it away. She didn't tie it up even after, but barely held it by the collar. Good that this is the only more problematic encounter so far.
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dprapr28. 10. 2015 13:37:12
Today I just picked up dog poop again along the edge of the plot where dogs that "don't hurt anyone" and their wonderful owners dump their "shit".
Good thing I was digging in the garden and it came in handy. Hope it has no harmful additives...velik nasmeh
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grega_z_brega28. 10. 2015 13:47:41
dprapr, it would suit you better if you walked horses and/or cows along the edge of the plot nasmeh
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Loni28. 10. 2015 13:56:02
Bites from more "friendly" breeds are more frequent only because there are more of those dogs due to popularity, if we looked only percentage-wise, it would be different.
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marinka6728. 10. 2015 14:51:26
Mr. SamoK, if a dog had knocked you over and bitten you as a child, and later again, I don't know if you'd shake off the fear so easily. Otherwise we have appropriate laws that say when and where a dog must be on a leash, with a muzzle etc.
Laws apply everywhere, people break them (we break them). But I haven't experienced yet that someone runs over a person and then yells at them why they walk there and that they provoked etc.
Dog poop is another story anyway. And once I already asked elsewhere: how do you pick up dog diarrhea and peeing? Haven't got an answer to this day.velik nasmeh
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 15:06:43
I didn't say that you "easily" shake off fear. You just have to work on it if you don't want to shake all your life in front of your own shadow.
Dog poop is really a mess, but how people shit all over the world, that's the crisis!
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 15:09:44
GregorC, people are afraid of darkness? My daughters have been able to walk alone in the dark forest since they walk, even without a flashlight.
I don't know how you were raised to be afraid of darkness.
As I say - you're afraid of your own shadow.
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 15:13:01
GregorC, no, dogs don't chase cyclists because the wheel turning reminds them of kicks, come on. It's just something about the size and speed of the cyclist that awakens some primal instincts in the dog.
When I cycled around the world myself, in some places (Turkey especially) I always had some stones on the pannier bag, and at hand the biggest tool I was carrying.
But hey, realize that dogs usually don't attack, just like bears don't, and darkness is just lack of light.
Oh man, oh man, oh man.
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SamoK28. 10. 2015 15:14:51
GregorC, one more thing. A dog that bites cyclists' ankles (very very common), won't bite you bloody. Just warns, so squeezed the jaw but didn't sink teeth. Verified.
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jax28. 10. 2015 16:12:57
SamoK, you don't understand something either. If you're flying down a descent at 40 or 50 km/h on a bike (that's completely legal speed, just to be clear), and a dog comes flying from a house by the side onto the road, it doesn't help at all if it's "completely friendly" and "just curious about you". Yeah, in some other situation you'd pet it and it would give you a paw. But then you'll be in the hospital. I'm not taking any side, but let's not treat dogs as angelic beings that can never ever do anything unpleasant.
Oh, and since we're on a mountain forum, I'd mention one more thing: chasing animals, even grazing ones. Are you all sure those sheep are equally convinced that your dog is completely friendly and won't hurt anyone?
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jax28. 10. 2015 16:13:34
SamoK
28.10.2015 GregorC, one more thing. A dog that bites cyclists' ankles (very very common), won't bite you bloody. Just warns, so squeezed the jaw but didn't sink teeth. Verified.

Enough to end up in the hospital.
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