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| Pankrt1. 11. 2014 22:00:43 |
Hehe red beef - hope yours will too...
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| Bandzo1. 11. 2014 22:05:33 |
@Oldtimer No, we weren't in that group, you can see it from the post date already. We can assess and overestimate the situation ourselves.
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| gams441. 11. 2014 22:09:21 |
I hope with this ferrata you won't reinvent the wheel when you have so many comments and just yap; do something then we'll tell you this and that, I won't say what
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| Skovik18. 05. 2015 13:02:45 |
Yesterday three of us went on the mentioned ferrata for the first time. Muddy (especially at start), quite slippery, so sometimes only pulling on the cable. Hand strength and sling for resting came in handy (esp. in D/E section). Also helmet, cuz hard to progress without dropping at least a pebble on the way,
Buddies have quite a few very demanding routes behind, one climbs, other was also at Eisenkapelle, and we all agreed it's pretty adrenaline, definitely not for everyone (tho climbing part "only 1.5 hours"), mind and arms work even more on muddy sections where even boots grip poorly unless you place them almost perpendicular to wall.
Maybe this - pics of this ferrata might be misleading, sure it's another very demanding route, but slope and muddy rock not visible until you slip down the wall yourself while holding cable 
Recommended visit in dry periods with helmet, self-belay and sling.
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| lfcboy19. 05. 2015 21:29:11 |
Beautiful ferrata, easier than Turkish Head. To be honest I expected more
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| janezs7331. 05. 2015 19:23:26 |
Today I used the move to Gorenjska and despite light rain and fog climbed the ferrata "Czech Hut". Experiences from the walls were such that wet rock mostly doesn't slip if there is no soil on it. And exactly this nasty feature this ferrata showed today - due to its relatively low altitude, it runs mostly through overgrown terrain, so often the only possible steps are loose pieces of soil, thus the whole ferrata is quite muddy. Interestingly, despite the rain, it didn't wash the soil off most steps.
For my taste this ferrata is too forced. Four harder parts/passages are unnecessarily made so that you practically can't climb the rock, the cable is usually at least 1.5 m away from sections with nice holds and purposely runs over slabs or bellies. In the middle there is even an overhang which the cable crosses just 0.5 m above the edge (don't understand the point), though nice holds a meter higher. Thus only calls for forced climbing and pulling on the cable. After 1.5 hours I almost forgot how to step on rock other than friction. And the ferrata lost its charm of rock climbing (and securing on the cable) for me.
Exposure nowhere is a problem, due to small height also no fitness issue. Problem can only be arm strength.
Therefore it wouldn't hurt to put a warning before the entrance that considerable arm strength or extremely fast hold changes are needed. Otherwise you quickly run out of strength. Categorization maybe many don't understand well.
Otherwise happy trails to all.
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| Branee31. 05. 2015 22:01:04 |
This is normal and expected for this class of ferratas. Maybe our folk not so familiar because our secured paths are mostly walks. These routes are deliberately routed that way and cable is often there so you pull up. And the term via ferrata means iron path which suggests you won't climb on ferratas just on rocks.
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| urbancek1. 06. 2015 09:12:13 |
@janezs73: Not exploiting natural passages is the ESSENCE of such ferratas. If you knew the topic a bit better, you could distinguish between secured climbing paths that exploit natural passages (there are quite a few here, also especially in high mountains), and e.g. "Austrian-style" sports ferratas, which are an end in themselves and not just a means for easiest overcoming of some wall . Best regards!
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| SamoK1. 06. 2015 10:53:03 |
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| ms_primoz1. 06. 2015 10:59:18 |
Yeah, arm strength is needed. But shame to criticize the path, no one forces anyone to go on it... I like it... sweating buckets (physically demanding)
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| jax1. 06. 2015 15:14:37 |
@urbancek,
That's not entirely true either. Or if you claim that, you have to be consistent and say that most ferratas in the Dolomites aren't really ferratas. Classic ones like Alleghesi, Bolver, De Luca and much around Tofane damn well use natural (or artificial-military) passages and aren't deliberately routed over harder terrain at all. So we'll say those aren't ferratas either? Modern sports ferratas are only a small part of all ferratas and not typical at all...
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| urbancek1. 06. 2015 15:34:48 |
@jax: You misunderstood me a bit. Secured climbing path is kind of our synonym for ferrata or as you say "classic ferrata" that uses natural passages. Of course I agree with what you wrote and it holds. Regards!
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| slavi09022. 06. 2015 18:14:16 |
well "Gonžarc" doesn't exactly have only natural passages, below you have to pull nicely with hands, anyway these are sports ferratas and that's their purpose, go to Austria there they really know what sports ferratas are and have tons of them, almost weekly new ones and post on http://www.bergsteigen.com/klettersteig
for people who enjoy such sports ferrataing, it's real paradise
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| Sorok11. 07. 2015 15:19:11 |
My "post" today is for info to those who haven't been on this ferrata yet but would like to. Won't write about success, but failure. Let me say right away that what's below is my opinion, of course it's individual matter depending on experience, strength, will etc...
First some facts: I've been "actively" hiking for 7 years. Among others, I've done some harder paths: Hanz's path on Mojstrovka, path over Vrbanove špice, climbing path to Velika Korška Baba, but none close to this ferrata's difficulty.
Originally planned to go to Kočne via classic path, but curiosity, challenge or passion tempted me to take ferrata. Climbed almost to end of first steep part and then ran out of arm strength and hung on the rope of self-belay set. After recovering from surprise and regaining strength, got back down via rope to ferrata. Stubborn as I am , decided for another try... – and hung again After returning to ferrata again capitulated and decided to descend carefully, even if it would take hours. Luckily Slovenian mountain army unit was training there then. Their instructor came to me and lowered me few meters down via rope to safety. If he reads this, thanks again!!!
Got away with some scratches, hit left leg when swung into wall and slight pains around waist – where safety belt held me.
What went wrong? Inexperience with such demanding ferratas, slightly wet rock and, lots of arm work needed – not enough strength for 90kg with 10kg backpack (had 5L water, planned Kočne initially).
That's it. Only "positive" is experiencing hanging on rope over abyss. Not pleasant
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| dprapr11. 07. 2015 15:39:06 |
That's the downside of ferratas, they offer false security with all the iron gear. Anyone can tackle them without limits.
Even in Gardaland they measure if you're tall enough for the adrenaline ride! Here just a sign "At own risk!"
And visitors' knowledge of ferratas...
Abroad many have a "test" (harder part) right at the start to deter the unprepared. All ferratas should be designed that way. Not with the hardest spot waiting up high. It can be there, but something similar must be at the beginning too!
Anyway, praise for publishing your experience and making those planning to go via this ferrata instead of the marked path to the Czech Hut think!
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| janez.novak11. 07. 2015 20:56:30 |
Sorok - congrats on your honest confession
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