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| Johann13. 07. 2015 08:59:46 |
There are really few who share their story with others like Sorok did... But this can be just a lesson for some who turn hiking trails into a jump and decide to climb some ferrata.... The ferrata to the Czech Hut can be for someone who doesn't have much mileage regarding ferratas and doesn't know their abilities, Unconquerable!!!... Otherwise my personal opinion about it - offers very nice views, as for the difficulty rating it's greatly overestimated especially that overhang which has E rating??? maximum rating of that section is C/D...
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| ms_primoz13. 07. 2015 09:08:53 |
Johann - well your subjective opinion. OK. You can rate it A, but because of that the path won't be any easier. That overhang is so very hard because you have to hold with one hand, with the other you have to swing over (and of course no artificial steps), of course if you use SVK. If not, then no such problem. And if one goes via ferrata to Czech, another via "normal" they are still both equal, because both reached the hut. Who went which way is up to the individual. It's true maybe won't post 1000 pics on FB, but it still counts. 
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| Rokson13. 07. 2015 09:34:35 |
@ Sorok, comment on picture 5 "On return regret for wasted beautiful day".
In the intro you wrote "but curiosity, challenge or passion tempted me to take it via ferrata."
You made the decision to test your abilities and risk failure, as you write, you consciously chose the challenge. If you're not prepared for failure, I recommend choosing a hill near home and visiting it weekly always on the same path. That way you'll reduce possibilities for objective and subjective surprises.
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| Sorok13. 07. 2015 09:46:35 |
OK, so like this: I regret because of the weather, not because of the attempt. Yeah, that "wasted" is a bit too much what bothers you. Of course I was prepared for failure too. Am I crying somewhere?! Thanks, but I don't need your recommendations and philosophizing
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| Johann13. 07. 2015 09:52:24 |
ms primoz.......the one who climbs this overhang and then in Austria drops into some ferrata rated E they will surely rescue him... this is pure misleading....
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| mkonci13. 07. 2015 10:53:24 |
@Sorok thanks for sharing the experience.
I'm preparing for ferratas myself.. Currently my destination is Lisca and its new climbing path, the last section is D/E difficulty and first time I didn't succeed. The only difference for me was that you can descend and bypass the "obstacle".
In next attempts it always worked for me.
Working on arm strength because I see that's my weak point.
When I'll be a bit better trained I'll go for this too. If you go to Lisca let me know what you thought.
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| Sorok13. 07. 2015 11:24:52 |
OK. Although I'm not a pronounced ferrata lover, I still like to test myself - with excellent safety gear, of course
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| Johann13. 07. 2015 12:26:28 |
The real and true D/E is only the entry wall in Gonžarjeva peč, elsewhere in Slovenia there definitely isn't one yet...
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| ms_primoz13. 07. 2015 12:58:39 |
Johann - please become a member of PZS and teach them. Because this, that one claims something, another something else, the third something third is pointless. Yeah, it's actually the same with every thing - on purpose to confuse people. I don't care if it's real D/E or invented D/E - in any case, don't go with hands in pockets. And adrenaline will work full throttle for me.
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| ljubitelj gora13. 07. 2015 13:24:03 |
@sorok you won't be the only one, others have already said that it stopped for someone, even rescue has happened. Some go further in difficulty into alpinism and it stops for them too. They get stuck, some are rescued, others help themselves, etc. Most stay silent, others don't, write stories. As someone says, preparations and preparations again and something he would add.... good luck further.
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| zokica13. 07. 2015 13:54:31 |
You don't go to via ferratas with 5l of water. If you're heading to Kočna though, there's plenty of cold water at the Czech Hut.
Preparation of the tour is three quarters of success. Moreover, especially an inexperienced person shouldn't go alone on such a via ferrata.
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| GregorC13. 07. 2015 13:57:59 |
Important that at the end some of you are smart again and know everything. Just watch out that you don't burn out one day.
Sorok hat off for what you wrote, especially for actually writing honestly without embellishing and shifting blame to others. Good luck onwards.
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| GregorC13. 07. 2015 13:59:16 |
Well, we could open a new thread Via Ferrata Czech Hut, so it's not all mixed up.
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| Johann13. 07. 2015 14:03:32 |
Ms primoz with hands in pockets has already many done something on the flat, with that but some of you don't care about difficulty ratings so accidents and various unpleasant events happen not only on via ferratas also on hiking paths in mountains...therefore we don't need those path difficulty ratings in descriptions anymore, because we just go to try...You never know which try will be the last one exactly because of such unwise thinking!!!
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| Sorok13. 07. 2015 14:05:01 |
thanks LG! Glad for comments like yours, from @dprapr, from @primoza and many more who are mature mountaineers with heart. Such comments are probably welcome for all those who don't dare ask publicly, so they don't expose themselves to sarcastic comments from some superiors Well, a nail drives out a nail
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| ms_primoz13. 07. 2015 14:26:01 |
Johann - you misunderstood me - I wrote that to me it's the same if it's real D/E or invented D/E - anyway I respect the rating with which the path is rated. Even when I set off on just a Difficult path I go with the same respect and reverence as if going on Extremely difficult. And no path do I take or set out on with "left hand".
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| dprapr13. 07. 2015 15:05:12 |
Difficulty can at the start be rated very subjectively. Even in climbing routes the rating "sticks" only after several repeaters.
It would be realistic to expect that via ferratas from the outset contain realistic difficulty rating. Especially if "old climbing foxes" built it. And I believe it's so in this case.
Even in climbing routes for example "fives" often differ from each other. But usually it's harder for the one who isn't prepared!
Haven't tried it yet because such paths rarely "pull" me, but maybe on some occasion, if not for else then so I'll at least know what you're talking about.
Johann under "Commented trips" talks about his namesake "Johann Klettersteig".
Just this via ferrata is example how unprepared are filtered out at the start. There's overhang right away in which some hang like salamis in shop window and don't know how further. When they finally realize it won't go, only then usually give priority to others impatiently waiting in queue. Few years ago tried some ferratas and besides too much iron what bothered me most was crowd like in Gardaland, only there they occasionally refresh you with some pleasant spraying.
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| Edina13. 07. 2015 15:35:51 |
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