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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 20:15:45
@Irina,
what disappointed me most is that it's very heavy; already today on a short walk around the nearby villages I could barely carry it—what would it be like if I went to Triglav with itvelik nasmeheekzavijanje z očmi
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Irina8. 03. 2013 20:29:59
@Hribovc,
I have to admit, yesterday I was quite surprised when you posted what you bought. You talked about a pocket camera, then you show up with a specific one.
By the way, I couldn't view the photos on Google, it happened to me before. Ah, no problem, I'll see others, with another camera.

In the store where you bought the camera, couldn't you exchange it? That would be the easiest.

Yesterday I was still browsing the web and checked out the Panasonic TZ 40. They added everything possible into such a small box.

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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 20:42:00
@Irina,
the problem is that I bought it online, at mimovrste.com, but I have to admit I bought it, so to speak, on the spur of the moment (my snap decisions...zavijanje z očmi).

I also spotted this TZ40, but they don't have it at mimovrste yet, so far only on the official Panasonic site: http://www.panasonic.co.uk/html/en_GB/News/Latest+News/The+New+LUMIX+TZ40+-+The+Perfect+Camera+for+any+Situation/11050813/index.html

This TZ40 would be a good pocket choicevelik nasmehnasmeh
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Irina8. 03. 2013 21:12:56
@Hribovc,
but, at mimovrste you can return the camera or exchange it for something else if the original doesn't meet your expectations. In a regular store they would "bug you" and probably you wouldn't succeed. So online shopping has some advantages too.

You know, the question is whether we amateur photographers really need TZ40. And how many are those fine points that distinguish it from TZ30, to wait for it and overpay.
I'd be happy with TZ20. TZ10 doesn't have panoramic shot, so it's not in my choice.

http://www.mimovrste.com/info/206/vracilo-blaga
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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 21:18:35
Thanks Irina, I'll call and inquire, but I think it won't work, because the camera was already in use.
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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 21:28:06
Regarding TZ30 and TZ40 you're absolutely right, it's just a matter of time when they'll discount TZ30 on mimovrstevelik nasmeh.
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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 22:14:09
On Ebay I noticed that Japanese and Chinese versions are cheapervelik nasmeh

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_odkw=tz30&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1313&_nkw=tz30+silver&_sacat=0

I assume mimovrste sells Chinese versions, what do others think?
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Irina8. 03. 2013 23:11:46
@Hribovc,
that you opened the product, tested it and found it doesn't suit you, is not a reason you can't return it.
Upon return, the product must be undamaged, in original packaging and include everything you got. I don't know where you're from, but "mimovrste" has its stores for picking up ordered products, so I think you can return it there after notifying.

The cameras I have, Panasonic TZ7 and Canon, interestingly both made in Japan, don't know about others.
Panasonic even makes its special series itself, obviously doesn't trust subcontractors, at least not the first series.

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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 23:17:54
@Irina,
unfortunately I don't have the original packaging anymore, well I won't claim, I'd have to look if I stashed it somewhere, but I doubt it. Otherwise it would be the ideal solution if I could return it and then pay the difference when I get the Lumixnasmeh.
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Irina8. 03. 2013 23:28:26
@Hribovc,
yeah dude, were you so happy with the package that you quickly "trashed" and threw everything away. Even for warranty and claiming complaints it's right to keep packaging for technical products at least a year. Sure, it piles up, but it's not that bad.

Well, I hope you'll find everything you need for successful exchange and get the camera you want.
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Hribovc888. 03. 2013 23:35:53
@Irina,
it happened somehow yeahvelik nasmehnasmeh, well I can't get out of my skin, I get extremely excited about every thing and appreciate everything a lotnasmehmežikanje, but not waste junk, because too much of it piles upvelik nasmeheek, anyway I used to save every boxvelik nasmehnasmeh but then I put an end to it.nasmeh

Thanksmežikanje, hope I won't go "on ice" againvelik nasmehzavijanje z očmi
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Irina8. 03. 2013 23:54:47
@Hribovc,
I think you'll successfully survive this episode.

I always check every camera in the store first and insist they charge the battery if not, to take some shots.

With larger cameras I'm careful not only what it offers, but also how it "fits" in the hand. Some cameras have the right side shaped so it doesn't suit me. Sometimes I hold the camera in one hand and then it must "sit" well, otherwise can't photograph.
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GričarA10. 03. 2013 15:39:14
If you order from ebay (China or USA) you'll pay customs over ~20€, which isn't cheap.
Check ebay.de or ebay.co.uk, there are also many other foreign stores where you can find cameras cheaply.
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Hribovc8810. 03. 2013 16:03:13
I'll just order this one from mimovrste: http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/1730440625/q=tz30%20srebrn/digitalni-fotoaparat-panasonic-lumix-dmc-tz30-srebrn-darilo-dodatna-baterija

On this page I noticed that TZ31 has high-sensitivity MOS sensor for high image quality in low light. Is it possible to shoot in dusk or darkness with TZ30 too or does TZ30 have high-sensitivity MOS sensor as well? Also curious what the difference between TZ30 and TZ31 is?

http://www.avdirekt.si/fotoaparati/1069-panasonic-lumx-dmc-tz31.html
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Lunca10. 03. 2013 17:22:58
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Hribovc8810. 03. 2013 17:45:04
My classmate from elementary school has it, and she said it's slow or has long response time or in plain words, it grinds and grindsvelik nasmehnasmeh
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Keko10. 03. 2013 18:53:22
I own Panasonic TZ7, predecessor of TZ30 from a few years back, but it's not much worse. I also have a DSLR and can say there's big difference between them especially in low light. Don't expect miracles from compacts. If you set higher ISO there's quite some noise, lower ISO image is shaky as shutter speed is long. Decent low light shot with tripod, handheld is tough.
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Lunca11. 03. 2013 10:38:58
Well I'm looking for something small, lightweight but quite capable, searching and came across this Nikon and it tempted me a bit nasmeh
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Močerad11. 03. 2013 11:13:24
In mountains I see lots of people with bulky (even DSLRs with superduper lenses) cameras, but still think for demanding hikes better to have as you say Lunca - something small and capable. Light conditions in mountains usually OK (except if hiking or starting/finishing in dark).

Anyway, adding one more, pricewise not in class of Panasonic Lumix TZ30 and Sony HX20V but super for amateur hiking photography (tested, previous version excellent value).

http://www.mimovrste.com/artikel/1730436024/q=SX240HS/digitalni-fotoaparat-canon-sx240-hs-crn (there's also SX260HS identical but with built-in GPS).

Only downside no extra battery included. I'd definitely buy one to not miss important moment. velik nasmeh

More here: http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews/canon_powershot_sx240_hs_review/
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