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| anonimni23. 12. 2011 09:33:47 |
Thanks for all the tips, it's clear you know the path well or have a good memory...
I'm the more cautious one of the pair, my buddy has done some courses; he's an alpinist trainee and to me seems a bit crazy (as usual for that trade), on Saturday he's going to ski Mojstrovka. Otherwise I have quite some experience with winter ascents, usually I've gone in the framework of larger organized groups with experienced guides, last year and this year more with buddies, though nothing so serious. Mostly I've gone in 'spring' months, when the snow was mostly predictable and reliable, in these months though I don't really have a feel for snow and always prefer to ask and check some other opinion on conditions, that's why I meant to ask more about the snow condition and suitability than about anything else, although your path tips are very welcome and useful.
I have no issues with turning back, it's almost always proven right, and Sedlo is a really nice destination anyway. Anyway, we'll see.
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| sla23. 12. 2011 09:51:04 |
Mali Gobar described the approach from Kamniška Bistrica. I've been to Grintovec from Suhadolnik several times in winter. Here the problem is the approach Čez Taško, which is very exposed. Higher the path is easier. No need to go all the way to Kokrško sedlo, already before you head left on well visible passages to Spodnje Jame. Then left towards Streha, as described above.
For the first time it'd still be good to go with someone who knows this approach. This variant is also skied and in season usually trodden.
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| Wine23. 12. 2011 10:26:49 |
Sla, in winter conditions Taški can maybe be bypassed on the right, easier path 
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| Mali Gobar23. 12. 2011 10:39:51 |
@anonimni
You've shown more than enough maturity (judging by writing) to judge whether to go on or not. Snow is mostly windblown, there are parts completely icy, some parts also with drifted snow - so a bit of everything. Basically snow is suitable for ascent, so no fear about that - of course using all winter gear and large dose of caution. If you have a buddy 'from the trade' then all the more 
Safe step,
Jure
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| urarrr23. 12. 2011 10:39:58 |
I think the path from Kamniška Bistrica over Cojzova koča and further along the roof of course shouldn't be dangerous. Just watch the conditions and especially the possibility of avalanches. Some technical stuff I don't see here.
As the predecessor already said obligatory ice axe with crampons and at least some brains in the head. Leave poles at home. Poles don't go with crampons.
If you think without poles it won't go fitness-wise, better go somewhere else.
And don't be so afraid because there's nothing bad.
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| KristinaG23. 12. 2011 11:14:51 |
Well, "urarrr", it's true that it's technically not demanding. But precisely because of that sometimes taken too lightly.
Anyway this is from under the fingers of Mr. Fona, but still worth reading: Article.
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| Volk24. 12. 2011 16:31:42 |
Urarrr, the one without poles is barefoot. Logical to stow them away when/if conditions dictate.
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| gapy25. 12. 2011 16:29:34 |
I think nice weather on Wednesday, if only not too much snow. If someone wants to join, or if someone goes up.
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| photo.Urban25. 12. 2011 17:41:12 |
I'm just interested if maybe someone knows if for New Year the Cojzova koča at Kokrsko sedlo will be open or if there's still some space there 
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| geppo25. 12. 2011 17:43:39 |
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| gams4425. 12. 2011 19:07:57 |
Urban hut will not be open but Kamniško sedlo will be open
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| photo.Urban25. 12. 2011 19:30:35 |
Many thanks for the answers
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| bdolmovi27. 12. 2011 17:31:04 |
Wonderful pictures! You had a beautiful day that won't be forgotten. I wish you many more such ascents and, of course, much health and personal happiness in 2012 and safe steps, good luck.
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| otiv27. 12. 2011 17:35:14 |
Bravo Rozka! To get to the roof and touch the sky, not everyone can do that, even such a tough guy.
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| opazovalec27. 12. 2011 22:11:21 |
Bravo Rozka for accurate description of today's conditions and nice pics. Almost don't dare add mine!
Hard to believe we didn't meet on Grintovec today..... Only 10 of us. Weather and conditions really excellent, even for me 50++ veteran to the top from lower station in under three hours. Walked even without shirt, like summer.
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| rozka27. 12. 2011 23:38:21 |
Thanks... today really lucky and caught one of those fairy-tale days
Opazovalec, yes, we definitely met going up and down...
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| Jany28. 12. 2011 08:09:24 |
Rozka, I'm really glad you're back in our parts. All congrats for the choice of goal and fairy-tale pics.
Also congrats to the veteran who yesterday surely wasn't just @opazovalec but an active player in the fairy tale.
LP
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| Volk28. 12. 2011 20:32:48 |
Today afternoon from Suhadolnik over Dolge stene to Grintovec. Conditions on the ridge excellent. Descent over Streha (before dark gnilec). Hard darkness caught me above Taško, so descended the hunter's trail instead.
To all heartfelt hribovkam and hribovcem I wish in 2012 much health and nice views.
Good luck.
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