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Kokrska and Jezerska Kočna

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MaticP9. 08. 2011 21:52:19
Sergejj otherwise I plan to do this path on SUNDAY, so maybe we can arrange something and go together?? nasmeh
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mailman13. 08. 2011 18:15:09
I was on Jezerska Kočna today! Nice tour, decent weather, satisfied.
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Here we went down later!!2
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Beautiful view of Jezersko5
Summit6
Why no summit register box at the top? A local woman hinted at the danger of the summit collapsing, it is indeed in bad condition.7
Summit8
Down to the crossroads, a pleasure.9
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panda20. 08. 2011 09:30:20
Yesterday (Friday) took vacation and still in the dark start from the parking lot in Suhi dol. At the junction decision "Over Taško" (path nicely fixed and not too hard) and at the next junction "Over Hudi graben". Criticism to PD Kranj, since they could put more than three pegs in the gully!? Otherwise not too hard path, but still requires care at exposed passages. At middle Dolci then start of "sweating" over the first scree and then also over the second, which is "killer" (one step up, half down). Finally in the wall and interesting scrambling to the top of Kokrska Kočna, after climbing to Jezerska. Descent to the junction at Dolska škrbina and to Cojza. In the hut a well-deserved snack and green drink. Descent back to Suhi dol, at the junction on the easy path. Nice, long and strenuous tour. When I was on the highway (15.05) everything was already foggy and obviously thunderstorm. Once again the rule applies: early hour, golden hour. LPnasmeh
Start still in the dark1
Dawn is breaking......2
The choice is clear: Over Taško.....3
Time is taking the last outhouse (I don't know if it will survive the winter)4
Through Hudi graben (to see if it's really bad)5
sheep greet me....6
now it starts for real......7
no belaying....(!)8
from the descent up along the ledge....9
Crossroads...10
start of sweating...11
bivouac under Kočna, Krvavec in the background12
view of Grintavec13
view from Kokrska Kočna to Jezerska Kočna14
at the top of Jezerska Kočna...15
through the chimney you really need to go on your belly....16
through the chimney you really need to go on your belly....17
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back at the crossroads, helicopter at the bivouac (they are training apparently)19
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already at the bend..21
Kalški greben22
Kalški greben23
the hut is already visible....24
just above the hut...25
beginning of descent....26
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no big deal, it's mighty28
at the junction down the easy - it really is easy....29
at the parking lot - everything already snow-covered (thank god, I'm already down).30
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panda20. 08. 2011 09:48:35
Sorry for mistakes in adding photos (not all succeeded). On photo no. 26 there's a mistake in the description (photo from the path Over ovnov čir). LPnasmeh
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Volk24. 08. 2011 20:25:34
Another pathless fairy tale.
Kokrska Kočna over SW ridge, descent to valley past bivouac. nasmeh
Wild beauty ...1
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dprapr25. 08. 2011 17:55:34
Volk, it looks like we're addicted to the same fairy tales! Last Thursday my brother and I did this tour. On descent we slid down the narrow scree (well visible on your photo) to the end, then a bit to the right and ran into that descent gully mentioned in the description.
Up to the notch we approached from the left side of the gully (following wooden ladder remains and chamois tracks). The description actually mentions approach from the right side of the gully and crossing left at the end to the Small Gates.
Lots of enjoyment ahead!

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Volk25. 08. 2011 22:13:33
Beauty and a half, this SW ridge, right, dprapr! nasmeh
I just 'had to' go up there, since the ridge no longer gave me peace whenever I see it so often from the bike towards Jezersko. velik nasmeh
Yes, I also found some old ladder down by the gully, and a red cross on the rock (maybe from Frishauf)!
Under the bivouac though... ouch. I bypassed the last jump on the right, on such a steep chute as I haven't for a long time. I was close to pulling the rope from the backpack. It ended with some scratches anyway. Nothing to it, (also) such are the off-trail sweets.

Best, good luck!
Mighty peaks of Jezerska and Kokrška Kočna from Na Križu (with a mountaineer in the right notch) ...1
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rb0125. 09. 2011 21:24:36
Today we went up Jezerska Kočna via Kremžar path, then continued along the ridge to Kokrska. Pictures:
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CarpeDiem24727. 09. 2011 18:11:09
Volk, what climbing difficulty could that ridge be rated? Because something pulls me there, if not sooner next year. Well so far I've summited only via Brane ridge on Šija and then the top! velik nasmeh
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tinky28. 09. 2011 07:20:29
Yesterday 27.09. from Ravenska Kočna past Češka koča to Jezerska Kočna. Weather wonderful for walking. I think the path is very well secured, despite some thinking otherwise. You just have to put in a bit of effort on some parts.
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left Koroška baba, right Ledinski vrh4
Jezerska Kočna5
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vratca7
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LidijaJesih29. 09. 2011 20:10:36
The morning was all too quick: up too early, leave home, start, have to get down from the summit, drive... It occurs to me, good that I'm not a manjezik I start with headlamp, but out of the forest at half past seven it's already quite visible, the sun catches me already quite high above Češka koča, where everything is still asleep. At the summit solitude, since I'm so early, I can sit, then return, exit before the last rock step onto the scree and down it to the junction for Skuta. A little later I push right again onto the scree towards the hut, which isn't the best but it is, and it ends almost at the hut. There I meet an acquaintance and we chat. They're closing the hut on Sunday, over the weekend the Czechs have it (of course, it's Češka koča). I decide on the return towards Ledine, despite the invitation I don't turn left onto the path that avoids Žrelo, but continue ahead. I don't know this section yet, but it was 15 minutes of really nice, scenic secured section, I didn't regret going to see it at all. Right at the exit from this section, before entering Žrelo, I turn left down, the traces of predecessors show me the best direction and I'm quickly at the car. At four I'm already leading a session in Ljubljanazavijanje z očmi, with a new layer of sunshine on my face and a smile that those present can't quite explain. I just hide my nails a bit. By the way, I don't know if anyone mentioned: access to the parking at the cargo cableway is now forbidden, so the path is longer by a good km, the parking is arranged and signposted exactly at the sign for Karničar centervelik nasmeh.
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the path is exposed, crumbly in the summit section, requires experience and caution2
This is all the space on the summit. Today there was enough3
famous Kočna chimney. Here you have to squeeze through entirely. Literally. Backpack down, on back or belly as desired4
Aunt from Mars from Šraj; sand under Lučki dedec. otherwise very picturesque section5
Nice view from the threshold of Češka koča towards Baba6
Section of path towards Žrel7
Start of the climb leading to the chimney then descending again to Žrel. Nice section8
Wire rope on both sides, in between almost stakes. Someone likes these things.9
Autumn bush, golden above, silver below.10
This wasn't there last time, now it is, but no grit at all...11
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viharnik29. 09. 2011 20:27:43
It's right that the parking lot is lower. Everyone indeed pushes up that slope to the cableways, consequently ruts form from the bikes, and during cargo supply it becomes a real mess at peak times. It's nice to go up also via the traverse over Štularjeva planina. I don't know though what the parking regime is now at the end of the hayfield of Ravenska Kočna. On the grasses by the road there's no more parking or they have arranged some small parking lots there too.
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LidijaJesih29. 09. 2011 20:44:12
Well, of course there's no problem with that parking lower, since it's not substantially longer than before. That one and a half km you can manage. But no one sticks to it zavijanje z očmi At the end of the hayfield nothing particularly new was to be seen, no signs noticed, and cars were parked just as usual.
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pohodnik382. 10. 2011 13:00:56
Yesterday 1.10. I did a repeat tour to both Kočne and continued over Dolska škrbina to Grintovec. Somehow a desire arose for a more demanding path than Kalški greben which I first thought of. Tour start Kamniška Bistrica at 6:23 to Kokrsko sedlo and on towards Grintovec. Over Ovnov čir to Spodnje Dolce. First to Kokrska Kočna and along the ridge to Jezerska Kočna. Quite a lot of hikers on the path. Views and weather phenomenal without wind and any fogs. Path continuation over Dolska škrbina to Grintovec where I arrived around 16, no one anywhere, except behind me an older hiker panted up, total grumbler so it was hard even to say "hello", damn I despise such people. Of course he quickly slid down from the top, so I had it to myself, sat, little snack, views... Descent over Streha to Kokrsko sedlo, one beer for successful tour, descent to valley to start, where hard darkness caught me before the end. Long but very nice tour that gives you a lot.

Best! Tone
Morning on the path to Kokrsko sedlo1
My goal ahead-on the path across Ovnov čir2
At Spodnje Dolce-view3
up there it's tough-very annoying this scree4
At the top of Kokrska Kočna-view all the way to Triglav and beyond5
View of Grintovec and its magnificent roof6
...already the second torn out piton on the path7
snapshot along the path from Kokrska to Jezerska Kočna8
up there9
View from Jezerska to Kokrska Kočna10
Famous crossing-descent from Jezerska Kočna11
over Dolška škrbina-not as bad as it looks in the photo12
To Grintovec via Kremžarjeva path13
On the north wall of Grintovec14
...a little more and on the summit of Grintovec15
on the summit of Grintovec-enthusiasm after a successful very demanding tour16
Grintovec-view-towards Skuta17
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on the summit of Grintovec-late afternoon19
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matjaž 7813. 10. 2011 07:27:42
We have in mind on Monday 17.10.2011 Jezerska and Kokrska Kočna, please all who were in these days in Kamniško Savinjske Alpe, write weather conditions and how much snow in high mountains. Is it suitable at this time.

best.
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andrej7813. 10. 2011 08:00:42
Winter gear is mandatory, ice axe, crampons, gaiters and knowledge for moving in high mountains in winter conditions, snow is about 40 cm.
lp
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jesihar13. 10. 2011 10:46:07
Yesterday I intended to go to Skuta, but turned back at the bivouac under Grintovec (2000m asl). Not much snow, but annoying patches on the path. In several places it is deep, so need to bypass and find alternative route. Since it is soft, extremely high slip risk on exposed spots. More than an hour and a half walked between Kokrsko sedlo and bivouac; over scree, rocks and such. Especially annoying on exposed ledge, where you'll have to trudge soft snow, no alternative. I recommend you take a shovel among other things. For now I'll move on lower, less exposed mountains.
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matic41. 11. 2011 08:02:26
The north side of Grintovci shows a fully winter picture. Yesterday my colleague and I went via the Kremžar path to Jezerska Kočna. Snow starts a bit below Češka koča. Higher up there is more of it, in the climbing part around 30-40 cm of frozen snow. Conditions for ascent are very good, probably the last chance this year for this route.
Ravenska Kočna1
lower and upper Ravni2
along Kremžarjeva path3
Grintovci4
at the top - view on Kokrska Kočna5
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zmaJ7. 11. 2011 12:31:02
What are conditions on Kočna, Grdi graben path, Kokrska Kočna, Jezerska Kočna, can one get there without crampons?
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fpetel17. 11. 2011 13:06:22
Yes, you can always get everywhere. Just some don't succeed (they fall). I have when there are winter (easy) conditions here crampons and ice axe with me. If it seems too hard or too dangerous (avalanche risk) then I turn back. Yeah, too many victims already - or I want to live some more time. Kočna is a demanding mountain. I think it's Russian roulette in November to go up without gear.
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