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jax11. 08. 2016 16:39:58
Ascent via glacier, descent as desired via ladder or path bypassing it.
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palček plezalček11. 08. 2016 17:21:56
@ jax... Which path? zmeden
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jax11. 08. 2016 17:46:57
Normal path, left (downhill direction) past lojtra. It's quite steep, but not particularly demanding.
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palček plezalček11. 08. 2016 18:03:13
Aha, you mean towards Cima Verde/Vrh brda...nasmeh
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jax11. 08. 2016 18:35:04
Yes, that's it. It's marked, at least it was.
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IgorZlodej11. 08. 2016 18:36:55
The mentioned one is substantially more exposed on the descent than the entire Montaž ridge from the summit to Lojtra; in wet conditions, there is a slip risk all the way to the scree below Lojtra.
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palček plezalček11. 08. 2016 18:44:11
Yeah, I know, I went last time through Pippan valley and then from scree to Vrh Brda and down too. Even uphill it's not too nice, and it was quite wet.
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One Mic11. 08. 2016 21:08:28
Thanks for the answer. What about the path over the glacier? I read it's climbing...
I have lots of experience with ferratas (via italiana on Mangart and similar..), but zero with climbing. So this path isn't for me?
lp
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palček plezalček11. 08. 2016 21:21:22
Maybe go with someone and take a rope and some pegs and/or slings, to make it safer.
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jax11. 08. 2016 21:34:54
Well. With all that scree you'd probably have more hassle than benefit with a rope. I went there once quite a while ago, in roughly the same situation - I wasn't a complete novice mountaineer anymore, but it was my first encounter with such a path. And yeah, at times it felt pretty scary. To be clear, in reality nothing too bad. Most of the time even in the glacier you're hiking, but there are a couple spots you have to climb. Especially one spot sticks in my memory, where you choose either a pretty narrow chimney where you have trouble with the backpack, or a quite delicate scree slab. Otherwise technically those spots aren't anything special and won't trouble inexperienced climbers. The bigger issue is really the huge amount of scree, even in steep terrain, where extreme caution is really needed.
All in all, I wouldn't discourage it. Go, take a helmet, tackle it slowly and carefully. Far from easy, but doable. And you really get the big wall feeling. And the descent is easier after all.
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ElBombinho12. 08. 2016 10:39:04
I'm not really an expert on Montaž, but the ascent over the Findenegg glacier is wonderful, descent over the Pipan ladder, then turn left onto the transverse ferrata Leva and optional descent from the notch under Cjajnerica directly to Pecol or even earlier to Špik Hude police and down the mulatjera. Lp!
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Clovek112. 08. 2016 11:58:11
As Jax said, in the glacier there's only one more difficult part, otherwise the climbing difficulty is really minor. I recommend ascent over the glacier, back wherever you want.
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IgorZlodej12. 08. 2016 16:30:59
@Clovek1, you don't know the path from Montaž to Nos, but you know to advise about Findenegg eekwhat are you playing at, let him go first via lojtra, then he'll see how it goes for him.
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Clovek114. 08. 2016 21:03:41
I just suggest, I've been there already, that's why I know how it is.
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viharnik14. 08. 2016 21:36:03
Findenegg and western Julian Alps are not just walks. Concentration on paths is needed, stable weather and certain mountaineer experience, so Igor the expert's advice is realistic and worth consideration.
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jax15. 08. 2016 00:22:19
Who talked about any walks?
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gajbrina17. 08. 2016 13:35:55
on 13.08. my cousin and I successfully finished the tour to Montaz. Start koča Brazza via Pipan ladders 3 and a half hours up, back in the same direction 2 and a half hours. 6.30 start, summit 10:00. Depart 10:30 arrive 13:00. up no crowds so no worry on lojtra, down lojtra was quite occupied. the rule of the stronger applies)))))))
Super feelings, great weather, nice pics))))))
together in front of the hut, ready for departure1
on the way2
also cousin Tomi3
Laško brewery )))))))))4
once again the brewery )))))))))5
Panorama from the path6
Before entering the wall7
A bit more and the chimney8
Tomi struggling on the chimney9
at the top10
just me11
and together12
my humble self13
a bit more to the end of the wall14
and me15
posing at the end16
well-deserved reward17
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miri17. 08. 2016 15:48:25
Isostar:"Pushed me the whole way, beer as reward. What an injustice.mrk pogled".
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gajbrina18. 08. 2016 12:55:07
Rules are rulesnasmehnasmehnasmehnasmehnasmeh
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michael6620. 08. 2016 11:48:53
For 4.5€. Was it at least cold?velik nasmeh
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