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nordkap30. 06. 2016 09:37:21
hi,

what are the conditions/situation from Pogačnikov dom to Razor.
Thanks
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Smetar30. 06. 2016 10:23:15
You need at least an ice axe from winter gear, there are still some snow patches and watch out for falling rocks. Or call the hut for more accurate info...

hi
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nordkap30. 06. 2016 11:29:27
thnx
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Hammond8. 07. 2016 15:38:39
Since it's practically part of Razor - which approaches lead to Vrh žlebičev? Can you get there also via the scree between Razor and Indijanec?
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redbull8. 07. 2016 16:19:07
From the students in the hut you'll have a hard time finding out anythingsmile. A week ago you urgently needed an ice axe a bit before the cave and above it another 5 meters ascent on snow. Probably already diminishing.

good luck
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lijaneja8. 07. 2016 17:17:22
To Vrh Žlebičev from the Šplevta (Indijanec) direction via scree is, in my opinion, a good III (haven't been yet), from the scree to the top of Razor a good II, if you find nice passages. (If you come across green tapes, you're on the right path. I placed them there many years ago).
Good luck!
There's still definitely snow and without an ice axe, no way!
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Hammond8. 07. 2016 20:14:07
redbull: hehe, yeah, I know that phenomenon too. nasmeh

lijaneja: thanks. So is that really the little peak that's accessible also from the marked path right at the end of the steep gravel section, when you look across to Indijanec or am I wrong? For easier visualization:

https://plus.google.com/photos/106920268436846496230/album/5516494525969715345/5516498686381089842
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bubamara12. 07. 2016 11:59:31
Razor 7.7.2016. We started on the 48th hairpin of Vršič, continued to the 38th hairpin. Turned onto pathless terrain and continued towards Razor. Suddenly we ran out of path, so we decided to turn far left into the bushes and reach the main path from Vršič, didn't realize how much bush there was. After 2 hours of torment we finally reached the path and continued to the top. Lots of snow but soft, no need for crampons. Path poorly maintained so needs more caution. Before climbing section lots of snow, had to jump bank to bank as climbing slippery rocks not feasible. Then some snowfields awaited us, but snow soft so crossed nicely. Last part from saddle nicely passable, one small snowfield nothing serious. Short snack at top then descent to Trenta and back to 48th hairpin. Total 22 km, legs really burning.
At 4 a.m.1
Towards 38 hairpins.2
On pathless terrain.3
View back.4
Hell begins.5
In the pines.6
Towards the path.7
Finally back on the right path.8
Towards the summit.9
View back.10
Slowly ascending.11
Across the first snowfield.12
View of Prisojnik.13
Ascent.14
Across the snowfield.15
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View down.18
Possibility of glissading.19
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In the end we decide to jump from bank to bank.22
View back.23
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There is a lot of snow.26
Company of a friend.27
View of dad.28
A little more.29
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View of the summit.32
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gj12. 07. 2016 13:24:05
Nice helmet
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bubamara12. 07. 2016 13:42:01
Beautiful, I like the color.
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Janez Seliškar12. 07. 2016 13:45:52
"gj" told you to use it instead of showing it off.
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bubamara12. 07. 2016 13:51:03
I know. I always use mine; in the pic it's a friend who didn't heed the advice. Can't nail it to his head though.
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Trobec12. 07. 2016 15:37:57
Well, helmet's for the backpack anyway... so it doesn't tear on narrow passages and sliding on rock. Like motorcyclists, elbow more important than head...

Nice tour otherwise.

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billzkid15. 07. 2016 11:03:34
Hi, tomorrow we plan to go to Razor, wonder if winter gear is currently mandatory? From last trip looks not needed but better confirm.

Thanks
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bremzzi15. 07. 2016 11:31:36
For path from Pogačnikov dom not needed. Last week still crossed one short unproblematic transverse snowfield, probably gone now.
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lijaneja15. 07. 2016 12:03:27
You won't need winter technical gear anymore. Take long pants and a thermo jacket. Tomorrow at noon, only 2 degrees C at Razor height.
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billzkid15. 07. 2016 12:57:53
Oh, thx to both for the info! I'll dress warmly!
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Trobec24. 07. 2016 12:13:26
Yesterday on a reconnaissance tour for the camp. The plan was quite ambitious. Do a 2-day tour in one day. From Vrata past bivouac on Rušje and Rdeča škrbina to Dolkova špica, then past Križ to Kriške pode, Razor and descent over Sovatna. Better half and friend opted for more realistic variant. After all, needed to do recon for easier group at camp too nasmeh
Re Dolkova špica, up thru notch ok, for down recommend the flat path. Interesting, I signed book only as 34th this year, then met 4 more who went up (one before me). Aja, saddle to top not marked, cairns though. Descent other side nothing special.
Then weather clouded a bit, very welcome for ascent to Razor. Towards Planja blowing quite a bit, summit calm. That new part one of the technically toughest among our ZZ paths. Very short otherwise (10m vert, total ~30m cables), SVK highly rec. Helmet needed way earlier.
On descent to hut realize almost 2hrs ahead of time plan, but karma is b****... lost Swiss tee hanging from pack somewhere on path. Went back involuntarily whole way to Planja saddle. At least tee waiting, or it'd be for nothing.
End all three down Sovatna after nearly 14hrs back at car. Total (w/ involuntary extra) 2900m gain, 11hrs walk, not bad vs marked "norm" 16-17hrs. (now Dejan will say just 6hr 2min 31s mežikanje
At 7 the sun was already burning fiercely1
One of the thicker larches found right by the paths2
Stenar and bivouac on scree3
crossroads4
in Rdeča škrbina5
and also a look back6
Three mountaineers we met earlier at the crossroads, heading to Rakova špica7
Up there there will still be trab today...8
at the summit9
the king...10
...and also the queen11
that timetable for Križ is quite optimistic12
view back13
upper Kriško lake14
and the middle one15
well-deserved snack... but then the legs feel heavy...16
along the path17
here ahead the old path went before the landslide18
vertical19
and also from the top20
the highest today21
even those little chamois aren't shy at all22
but mom is always nearby23
a bit lower there's already somewhat different fauna24
across Sovatno25
after almost 14 hours back in the valley26
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mailman24. 07. 2016 12:53:45
And where did that trio cross to Rakova Špica? Just "straight across"? Dejan would need less timemežikanje, only today more, because yesterday on return from Logarska dolina by bike home had headwind! Probably struggled quite a bit.jezik
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Trobec24. 07. 2016 13:58:12
To me it looked like they went more or less right up the ridge. True, I didn't watch them much, as we were approx same speed and reached summit around same time.
Maybe someone will chime in and say something.
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