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| dprapr6. 09. 2013 21:00:18 |
@jax, well written!
Mass ascents to the highest peak can't be prevented by lack of equipment on the route. Just look across the border and see that what you wrote holds absolutely true.
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| Maemi6. 09. 2013 22:57:44 |
@jax, that's right!
To Triglav, the structure of so-called good people doesn't go; they are only found on pathless terrain and hard-to-access routes. True, the frequency of people there is lower, but the mentality of people there is different too, and we only wish it stays that way!
Triglav has become a "sad mountain", worn out and trodden, in all its grandeur becoming just a shadow of itself...
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| Keko6. 09. 2013 23:20:48 |
On Grossglockner they removed the slings and the result is even bigger crowds at the key spot. People jostle and queue to take their turn. They didn't do it for fewer visitors but commercialized it. Austrian guides are rubbing their hands. I think most of us here don't want that. Triglav has long been popularized and let it stay that way. For real mountaineers there are plenty of other, even nicer peaks that aren't so crowded. But we can't own any peak. We have to start from the simple fact, if I can go up, anyone else can too, or none of us.
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| FLEKSARCA7. 09. 2013 00:24:30 |
With slings or without, worn out, pissed on or shat on, when you first step on it, the feeling for everyone is slightly different than stepping on any other Slovenian pimple. It will be there, we (currently know-it-alls) in eternal hunting grounds, haugh I said.
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| jesihar7. 09. 2013 07:13:25 |
To those who took the line that above-average securing is actually better, who think people would rush up en masse even if the route wasn't so well secured.
For you I have the following question - why does traffic drop tenfold in winter, when the ascent difficulty rises exponentially? Not because people don't want to go there in winter anymore?
Or differently: trophy - a photo with the snow-covered Aljaž Tower is worth much more than a photo in summer conditions. And yet not so many go for it.
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| jax7. 09. 2013 11:31:50 |
Well, on Mont Blanc or Grossglockner there are also much fewer people in winter. When it is the season, it doesn't depend on the route's equipment.
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| jesihar7. 09. 2013 12:01:44 |
No no, if they put up belay poles like on GG, you'd see how it would affect the number of winter ascents.
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| dprapr7. 09. 2013 17:44:24 |
@jesihar, even in winter, to be completely honest, there's a nice track beaten to it. And walking on that track is quite busy too, so it's hard to say that in winter "the difficulty of the ascent increases exponentially". And as long as Kredarica is open in winter, there'll be crowds in good weather then too!
It's just the highest peak and consequently the most tempting! And that's right!
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| Becar7. 09. 2013 20:37:58 |
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| Katja667. 09. 2013 23:54:35 |
Stealing shoes in the mountains is really crazy..at least they could have left him the old ones so he could return to the valley safe and sound.
Unthinkable for me. But still, at night I take the shoes to the room if I overnight somewhere up there. How sad
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| viharnik8. 09. 2013 08:24:50 |
That's right , I too left barefoot in India (it was in the 10 mil. city Bangalore), a yogi takes me home on a moped. The newbie guy (rickshaw man) comes to holy yoga, but steals just a pinch of material glory there-shoes, compared to the spiritual treasure within, if he had devoted himself to Sahaja yoga.They say that if a realized person loses something, that part of clothing, footwear is already too contaminated vibrationally with neg. vibrations, so it's good to get rid of it if we want to stay pure.
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| VanSims8. 09. 2013 08:48:31 |
I too this year, when I overnighted at Planika, took off the gojzarje then carried them up with me.
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| -8. 09. 2013 08:50:03 |
Yesterday to Triglav via Plemenice, descent then via Prag.
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| meta508. 09. 2013 09:27:35 |
Yesterday we were among a ton of hikers on Triglav too. We did the same route as strikan and his group.... We met part of the group that's in pic 16 several times during the day.... despite the crowds and the dance of clouds around Triglav we had a nice day and safely returned to the valley.
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| pohodni8. 09. 2013 10:08:19 |
Also for our youngest, not yet 11-year-old family member, the time has finally come to fulfill his long-standing strong desire to climb to the top of Triglav. To give him the green light for such a feat, he had to climb quite a few Slovenian peaks, even on more demanding paths. Based on his previous experiences, we decided for a one-day ascent to Triglav summit via Tominšek from Vrata and descent over Prag. This path is one of the shorter accesses to Triglav, but steep, demanding yet very interesting, varied and well protected. As such, it posed no problems for our boy, as he has already done technically more demanding paths. Only the slippery rock on the northern sides bothered a bit, as the heavy dew no longer dries even during the day. After arriving at Kredarica, fog enveloped us, which we fought until Mali Triglav, but higher up its tentacles didn't reach. At the summit nice, sunny and warm. Views beautiful, but only to the peaks peeking out of the fog, here and there the view reached lower, especially to the north. Descent to Kredarica was slow and careful due to heavy traffic. There we sat a bit more and then descended back to the valley over Prag.
Strong will and desire did their job this time and surely the son will happily remember his first ascent to Triglav summit.
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| Urbban9. 09. 2013 18:05:50 |
What are the conditions like for Triglav these days - so in rainy weather, is the ridge path or elsewhere more slippery, dangerous, or not? Say if I went up tomorrow morning?
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| VesnaM9. 09. 2013 18:22:02 |
Seriously? In rain everything's slippery, whole path you're washed by rain, slippery, no views at all, possibly thick fog too, tomorrow might even fall some light snow.. wouldn't it be better to wait for weekend? they say it'll be nice 
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