Velika Martuljška Ponca VMP 2602m a.s.l.
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| mlubej7. 08. 2015 11:08:41 |
Oh no  "need/don't need", given that 100kb of data is no extra weight, it doesn't matter if you have a track or not. But isn't the approach description an instruction on how to follow someone else's tracks? 
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| JusAvgustin7. 08. 2015 11:34:41 |
No, it does matter. Description is guidelines, key points. Track is actually someone's step by step. Read the last sentence again. If for Rutarska Ponca you need a track, stick to the marked ones. Or go with someone who's been there and knows the VD area. That way you'll enjoy without staring at the screen.
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| ZeK7. 08. 2015 11:53:37 |
I agree with Juš.
then you experience someone pushing somewhere it doesn't go, you politely ask where he wants to go and show him where it is, he yells back at you that his track shows that way.
even if straight into the abyss, because the track says so.
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| ljubitelj gora7. 08. 2015 12:36:47 |
@mlubej: We can arrange sometime and go together, I was there last autumn.
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| mlubej7. 08. 2015 13:16:41 |
@ljubitelj gora: Thanks for the kindness, if all goes well I'll go (not alone) tomorrow, if you happen to have time, let me know. Jus and ZeK, next time when I bang my head against the wall staring at my phone, I'll remember your advice  Best regards and hope we meet sometime in the high mountains.
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| ljubitelj gora7. 08. 2015 14:37:52 |
Too hot in Velika dnina and below in the thicket.
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| JusAvgustin7. 08. 2015 15:03:29 |
Until 10am Dnina is in shade. At that time you're already descending? And at 12pm at the hut with cold beer
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| JusAvgustin14. 09. 2015 10:15:52 |
I don't know why everyone grinds that red gully, when there's such a nice passage below a bit above the bivouac and then steady ascent along the ledge to the path junction under the summit structure.
Next time go along the ridge to Veliki Oltar instead. It's much nicer than digging up scree to MMP.
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| mlubej29. 09. 2015 22:44:35 |
If I stand at the bivouac, will I see this nice passage looking towards the VMP summit? If not, please give a bit more detailed description, especially of the path from the summit to the bivouac. Thanks! Best, M
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| MANGRT30. 09. 2015 21:26:59 |
I usually choose like this to avoid scree.
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| viharnik30. 09. 2015 22:12:25 |
I used that red one sometimes for descent, for ascent right of yellow along the ridge at red collapsed scree. As I see, there's now an even bigger collapse.
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| korl1. 10. 2015 07:37:55 |
And that was even before you learned to walk on water?
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| mlubej1. 10. 2015 10:44:54 |
Thanks everyone for the answers!
Best,M
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| viharnik1. 10. 2015 14:00:16 |
Korl, first you gotta learn to walk to get to the river .
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| redbull1. 10. 2015 14:53:40 |
I only knew the path by the red line, that scree will need trying sometime, didn't even know about it
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| MANGRT1. 10. 2015 15:08:30 |
Dejan.
Slow down a bit and look around when you're in the mountains and you'll notice lots of approaches here and there. Ascent direction counts as time spent on the tour too.
You'll see over the years you'll calm down and take mountains differently. Congrats on your achievements anyway.
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| redbull1. 10. 2015 15:58:20 |
Mangart up there really no need to freak out, was with dad so that track didn't come to mind. More practical in winter
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