Clothing for hiking in the mountains
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| viharnik18. 10. 2011 20:49:00 |
Exactly as Igor wisely wrote. Those various membrane types that famous brands fight over are actually just a magnet for buyers on the consumer base of end products. How much does that overpriced membrane weigh, which has its own shelf life too, that's another pair of shoes. Better not talk about the price of these products. Windstopper gloves warm less than normal fleece gloves (they no longer sell them due to profit margins), breathe less, cost 4x more. etc
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| viharnik18. 10. 2011 21:06:12 |
Even Ötzi walked in winter through Ötztaler Alps dressed only in furs and leather shoes wrapped with rope around the leg and a stick instead of an ice axe.
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| DarjaZaplotnik18. 10. 2011 21:07:17 |
If Ötzi went for depilation, he'd be cold too, right?
Ugh, how much you complicate with clothes.
I'm quite a bit in the terrain, but I don't have at all everything you list. And I wear the same clothes "around" practically all year, especially Swiss underwear. Well, that's the most problematic. I haven't found a formula yet on how to wash it so that in the morning before going to the terrain you don't have the feeling that you pulled the sweaty one out of the backpack.
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| pika18. 10. 2011 21:20:44 |
If possible, wash the underwear at a slightly higher temperature (I wash it at 60 and it's still ok), and every now and then add regular alcoholic vinegar to the powder for softening. It surely helps, and don't worry that it will smell like vinegar , because it airs out. And you save money, because it works the same as Calvex  .
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| DarjaZaplotnik18. 10. 2011 22:10:17 |
@Pika thx for the tip, but Craft can't be washed above 40 degrees. Well, a bit of deodorant in the morning spray and it's fixed, hehe. 
best regards d
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| Sano18. 10. 2011 23:37:12 |
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| jax19. 10. 2011 00:26:10 |
Heh, I haven't been winter hiking anywhere for a while, but I have to admit I'm still in the cotton t-shirt club. And somehow I don't see a significant connection between clothing and safety. That's different for technical gear, which I also buy decently. But clothing - whatever suits you. Someone mentioned three layers suitable for uphill walking at temps down to -6. Well, at such temps I usually walked in just a cotton t-shirt (and maybe even took it off because it was too hot). Wind though - well, if it's too strong, you'll hurry back to the car anyway ;-)
But I can tell a little story why maybe it's not best to wear too fancy schmancy clothes (summer though, but still).
It was on Korenova on Krn. Wet grass, everything very slippery, dragged myself up a bit. Anyway, I reach the fixed rope, grab it - and suddenly find myself with my hands a meter lower. So, because my hands were wet from the wetness, it slipped even on the rope grip. And clearly, the only thing left in that situation was to wipe on the t-shirt every time I reached the rope. Got to the top safely and happily, but looked almost like a miner Well, clearly it's much easier to do something like that with just a cotton t-shirt, which you can easily throw in the machine at 95 at home (and if that doesn't help, without regret even in the bin), than some fancy schmancy whatever degrees Kraft. Oh, the story is completely true
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| pika19. 10. 2011 07:33:58 |
Darja, I only wear Craft t-shirts, so they withstand more than it says. On some it even says they can be washed at 90 - tested, they even survived .
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| TanjaM19. 10. 2011 08:55:53 |
Well yeah in summer I also hike in short sleeves, the thing is that at the top or during breaks it's cold, even though I change into dry, because I obviously have too few (functional) clothes. If I have to buy something, let it be at least somewhat good, given that I'm not a very demanding user so I think it's pointless to buy some super technical stuff. Well, the first option was recommended to me in Kibuba, the second in Iglu..
viharnik, why are thick fleece and thick softshell incompatible?
Somehow I think I need medium softshell (now, don't know if it's worth getting windstopper), thin down jacket, thin to medium fleece and also base layer, or am I wrong? and can use for my needs even in winter.
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| alpin19. 10. 2011 09:24:27 |
I also use Craft base layer and first layer. I think it's very high-quality and worth its money. I wash them daily, really on the Jogging program, and add a little (very little) softener, although I shouldn't, but the quality is the same after 1 year. I recommend it.!!
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| ljubitelj gora19. 10. 2011 09:56:59 |
My comment:
Clothes, regular tracksuit or regular shorts, those swimming ones so they dry faster, regular t-shirt, regular long-sleeve shirt, socks with seam (I wear doubles), thin windbreaker just in case, I hike in mountains when nice and not on day thunderstorms forecasted, right before evening I check maps precisely. Winter situation different, normally useless summer clothes need to buy good quality winter clothes, but I also went in summer clothes with some more warm added layers, gaiters indispensable, likewise pants or at least protection. Adding also, I use some better Tibet boots, performed exceptionally well, recommend to all, for 3x reached peaks over 2000m (among them two ferratas on Mangart and one Vevnica-Ponce), even with them I ran whole path from Triglav all to Krma, not one slip.... max surprised me. Price in Alpina retail there 150 euros, discounted get for about 100 euros. No blisters, cuz leather. Change boots when they "slip", though still good, look like new, better new every 2 years than X falls and possibility some break.
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| DarjaZaplotnik19. 10. 2011 10:13:36 |
Hehe, @ljubitelj gora, I always smile at your comments about clothes. Not in negative sense. More cuz they take me back to years when no technical clothes of today existed. Kids we didn't even have money for anything better than tracksuits, knitted sweaters and cotton shirts. Well, maybe managed to snag some fleece from expedition guys. And remember then, 1993 current AO Kranj leader managed from Norway to "smuggle" first Crafte to Slovenia, and from Camp factory secretly got first ice tools with curved handles.
Ugh, those were times...times of cotton and Adidas "iberhoz" and windbreakers.
best d
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| IgorZlodej19. 10. 2011 12:50:49 |
@DarjaZaplotnik, Ugh, those were times...times of cotton and Adidas "iberhoz" and windbreakers.
And velvet pumparice and yellow or red wool knee socks.
Well also mammut, bergahaus, gore, trango world, milet, mellos etc. not bad.
@MajaO, "dog walking" and some winter ascent over 2500 somehow don't go together
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| turbo19. 10. 2011 14:09:34 |
@Igor , @Darja , @MajaO . . .
sometimes, admittedly quite a while back, we didn't even think what to wear. And weren't picky at all. Only choice was color of hand-knitted sweater and socks, wind jacket and pants for rain and wind you chose between Adidas and Yasso, in winter if saved enough, smeared with Metka down jacket . . . backpack from Porenta and if had more, maybe imported Karrimor from Slovenijašport. Pumparice velvet, loden (loden-like) and later even same material as elastic ski pants ( Toper ! ).
But interesting, when switched to better gear, didn't do any better hikes 
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| IgorZlodej19. 10. 2011 15:34:55 |
Good idea, which has been brewing in my head for some time, to once go to some more crowded mountain in these old rags, I just don't know if anything still fits me, years and all the drunk beers have done their thing.
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| viharnik19. 10. 2011 16:18:34 |
Like this we sometimes went to the mountains. Thick knitted wool sweater, pumparice no more at home, over tracksuit (novelty in Nama) Nike wind pants from polyamide, which surprisingly according to the manufacturer's warranty even breathed, ski pants this time Elkroj or Yasa, Toper. On the head real mountain hat, where badges had to shine necessarily, because that was the distinctive sign of how much the mountaineer really counted then.
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| viharnik19. 10. 2011 16:54:44 |
Oh man, where are those ads and that Šiftar with ice, I laughed so much that my belly almost burst when he said with his eyes about the Šiftars and that they even live with us in common Yugoslavia.
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| GregorC19. 10. 2011 17:19:56 |
Really cool gear. I too still had such a knitted sweater and mountain hat (I called it Kekec's), which really served more for badges. At the end the hat was no longer visible because there were so many. And of course knitted wool socks (preferably red).
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