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| viharnik29. 11. 2013 19:44:44 |
Good thing you didn't go up in opanci and ride down in them. Really sick post for the current snow conditions. When you slip once, you'll think quite differently than now . With that I don't mean anything bad about you in general.
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| mukica29. 11. 2013 19:50:45 |
Congratulations Dejan, nice tours on a nice day...
too bad you didn't arrange for tomorrow, perfect day
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| urbancek29. 11. 2013 19:51:37 |
It's logical that where the snow is blown away, there can't be any talk of avalanche danger. But there are other dangers in the mountains. Regards!
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| redbull29. 11. 2013 20:40:36 |
I just don't know, viharnik, did you drink something. Your sentence "When you slip once." And where did you mean for today for slip (tell me the place). Don't comment blindly, it looks like you don't know the conditions at all and wait for arsotu to say it's 1st level. Let me tell you, it's still 3rd level and probably they'll still be afraid to go down to Grintovec, although the path is almost summer, I could say, except that ladder. You can put on crampons, just in case, if you're not sure.
Pointless to write anything here at all, because it's really something.
http://www.mojalbum.com/dejanstasy/grintovec-in-kman-sedlo-29-11-13
regards
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| lijaneja29. 11. 2013 20:59:18 |
Redbull, judging from the picture, you look about 25, the time on your seventh picture is achieved by 45-year-olds, but they don't brag about it.
Winter mountains don't forgive and don't underestimate them. In the last eight years I've witnessed two slips on Grinta that ended tragically.
Everything is still ahead of you, so use your head.
No hard feelings.
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| redbull29. 11. 2013 21:16:09 |
You're right, lijaneja. Otherwise keep it to yourself, no need to comment. If you belong to those 45-year-olds, we can meet and try together under 1h15 min?. Look, some are just better conditioned, but that's the result of two years of hard training - almost daily.
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| Domch29. 11. 2013 21:22:13 |
Bravo for the tour to Grintovec. Just don't think now that you can go everywhere up. There's a huge amount of snow in the mountains. Yesterday I successfully reached the top of Pece, today I had a debacle in my attempt on Obir. Luck is fleeting, so be careful, above two thousand now there's no joking, regardless of gear, experience, condition.
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| Jure S29. 11. 2013 21:31:34 |
redbull, in two pictures you have gloves on your hands and you write that you didn't use them 
About slips, better not to act too smart, because you can slip also on dry ground etc. On this path where you walked, maybe really no avalanche danger, but you have to know KSA are big and conditions are not the same everywhere.
Regarding avalanches, attend some field seminar, and you'll be surprised what all you'll learn and how broad the term is. Personally I was at such a seminar and now I look at it a bit differently!
Regards, Jure
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| Bajsek29. 11. 2013 21:56:52 |
Redbull they piled on you :P! arso could give a bit more specific info. Regarding slips you can slip also in bathtub
The guy is top prepared and average who pushes into hills can't compare to him at all.
Hats off for the tour. I would go that fast too. but I took all winter gear - shovel etc., which I used on descent when I put it under my ass 
But I agree with Domch. A little caution doesn't hurt
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| redbull29. 11. 2013 21:58:37 |
if we're talking about gloves from Kokrskega to the first picture where you see gloves I took a lot of photos and got a bit cold,,so I had to speed up a bit. no problem,,stupid observations. I'm talking about conditions on Grintovec, don't mix other K.S. mountains. To j.KOČNO one could go too e.g., and hope not all will fly up tomorrow. Same circus as with Plemenice, you all flock,,usually only those in front of computer.
Easy for some tour we'll arrange
lp
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| ljubitelj gora29. 11. 2013 22:01:01 |
Once last year to Kokrsko sedlo, icy, ice axe went in only with the serrated part.
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| redbull29. 11. 2013 22:04:11 |
This I call good conditions, already need some ice axe
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| SamoK29. 11. 2013 22:30:26 |
redbull, super!
Hey, party poopers, when will you stop whining about how dangerous it is in the mountains?!! Take that to some tavern, not here messing around!
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| viharnik30. 11. 2013 09:16:52 |
And that Redbull... at your age I managed from the Dom in Kam. Bistrica to Kamniško sedlo in a mere 55min and I hadn't heard of any mountain running yet, but I trained regularly in Sankukai karate. The hutkeeper then couldn't believe it, for the descent I needed a slow 1h 5min.
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| CarpeDiem24730. 11. 2013 10:15:07 |
Viharnik, you went like a fast train.
Well, I need about 2.5 hours for such a path, and at the top I'm still in good spirits anyway. Some go even an hour slower than me.
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| skorny30. 11. 2013 10:58:04 |
Viharnik teases us a little again ........ joke
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| vetrc30. 11. 2013 13:51:32 |
Bravo, Redbull! I like your ascent! And your comment too - ... otherwise surely someone during the week, since they reached Cojz's, but such people aren't on this forum.
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| Irina30. 11. 2013 14:33:14 |
Nice that you got to visit Grintovec on Wednesday and shared it with us. You fly up and down like a young goat - not meant maliciously.
Take care! Safe steps and sunny day.
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| Fifi30. 11. 2013 15:49:16 |
I sniffed around the page a bit to check the conditions. Well, I found excellent information and quite a bunch of various comments.
Redbul, thanks for taking time during the racing for pics, so at least we have a bit clearer idea of what to expect (that's what this forum is for). But let's ask ourselves: Is it also meant for self-affirmation of one's own ego? Aren't the pictures sufficient material...
Well, we could write novels about that. Personally, I was looking for information and I found it, courtesy of Redbul, of course.
But one needs to know the following. By typing personal experiences and one's own judgment alongside our photo, we are responsible for what is written!
It is necessary to post conditions as OBJECTIVELY as possible since every person has their own extremes and with that we can literally send another to death, because the poor 45-year-old unwittingly compared himself to a 25-year-old more experienced one or to a fool who challenges fate? Only God knows what distinguishes that
Regarding the comparison though... A racing car cannot be compared to a tractor because they have completely different purposes. If a trail runner compares himself to hikers, there are only two possibilities: either he is too weak to compare with his peers or he lacks self-affirmation, which the first point greatly influences
I wish everyone safe steps and many PERSONAL records or experiences
Good luck!
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