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| julius14. 09. 2012 20:20:08 |
Becar!
If you can tell me in which shop I can buy beer for 0.50 EUR, I'll buy it only there from now on. I couldn't buy it anywhere at such a low price today.
Thanks for the help and best regards.
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| viharnik14. 09. 2012 20:27:54 |
My opinion is: If the service is high quality and the keepers are friendly at the same time, then a slightly higher price than in the valley is not questionable. Prices are not only the delivery costs of supplies to such heights, but also the hut renovation, payments to employees, VAT to the state, etc. We don't eat and drink in the mountains every day, so that it would be such a problem, although these are crisis times.
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| viharnik14. 09. 2012 20:30:47 |
Julius, in Lidl they have super beer 0.5 l, Deep brand for 49 cents, in Spar for 58 cents of Austrian in the blue can. 
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| Becar14. 09. 2012 20:37:09 |
@julius
For 0.5 EUR besides the brands that viharnik listed there is also Mercator beer, plus purchase prices for innkeepers in larger quantities are different from yours. Also for Laško and Union. I'd say even lower than stated.
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| CarpeDiem24714. 09. 2012 20:50:52 |
@Viharnik, if "Deep" is super beer for you, then I really wouldn't want to discuss beers (and their tastes) too much with you, but let's leave it, as that's not the essence of the debate in this topic.
I just see it that way: where there's no cargo cable car or where personal (off-road) vehicle access to the hut is possible, the price is somewhat higher, since delivery is also difficult. So, for example, years ago we drank (small - 0.33l) beer on top of Očak for (if I'm not mistaken) 6 EUR per can. But it's true you don't have to buy it, the thing is VOLUNTARY! 
Beer in Prešeren hut costs 3.60€, if anyone's interested in this info. 
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| julius14. 09. 2012 20:55:03 |
Viharnik and Becar, we're talking about beer and not sweetened water with minimal content and amount. The beer semi-finished products you mention are not even a trace of real beer. Mercator beer is missing quite a lot.
You both have to admit that a person must also put something of quality into himself. Really not everything is for "guzzling" and then claiming everything is super.
No hard feelings gentlemen.
p.s.: and don't spit on me too much, so I won't use up too many quality "Paloma" tissues.
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| julius14. 09. 2012 20:58:02 |
And one more thing.
Mercator beer used to be Tivoli, which meant it wasn't Union, but quite less.
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| VanSims14. 09. 2012 21:09:13 |
How many times more! Demand a price list or menu with prices, demand a receipt! Whoever didn't do that shouldn't complain about high prices! The price on the list or when demanding receipt can be significantly lower! Whoever let themselves be ripped off shouldn't make a fool of themselves here.
As for beer, e.g. in Mangart hut 3 EUR, Dom pod Storžičem 2 EUR. Both checked on the price list! Both accessible by car!
With us beer (nominal price, not without receipt) in huts is still quite cheap. In Austria you hardly get it under 3 EUR even in the valley let alone in the mountains. Italy same, but there they'll slip you 0.4 so-called media portion instead of the usual half-liter mug. Not to mention Val d'Aosta where such a portion cost 4 or even 5 EUR, in Switzerland also 4-5 CHF. France something like that too. In both latter countries of course normal 0.5 portion.
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| viharnik14. 09. 2012 21:27:59 |
Julius, beer is beer (hops, water, yeast-fermentation) and there are no big quality differences between average beers. Just a colleague at Mercator in the drinks department told me that the quality of all beers has dropped lately, those for avg.1€/0.5 l.Worse is only the one in Hofer, which is actually just slightly yellow tinted water(pour it into a glass).You can buy black one for 5€ too, but it's not worth the money, even though it's Made in Scotland.
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| dprapr14. 09. 2012 21:47:41 |
Prices depend on demand of course. And good that it is so. If someone sets them for you, sooner or later you end up bad.
To me it seems logical that beer e.g. on Kredarica is "luxury". We don't go up there for beer and good food, but probably for something else. Beer and other "delicacies" can easily wait for the return to the valley. Of course, if we want everything at any time and everywhere, it costs something. Probably no one haggles over beer price on top of Triglav!
On tours I rarely stop at some hut. When I do, the price doesn't interest me if I crave cold beer. This year, I think I drank it at Češka koča, in Robanov kot and on Krn, and I was served friendly everywhere, but I didn't remember beer prices by chance, because at that moment it didn't interest me.
And one old joke:
Three order drinks. First orders Union beer, second juice, third says: "If you two won't drink beer, I'll do it" - and orders Zlatorog. Yeah, once there was nothing above Zlatorog, now it doesn't hold anymore.
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| julius14. 09. 2012 22:10:20 |
Viharnik!!!!
You say beer is beer.
That's really holy simplicity! Just like a woman is not a woman, wine is not wine and a car is not a car.
Everywhere there are quality differences, and more. How come you took the woman you have and not some random one, since you directly claim there are no big differences in principle.
Unfortunately everywhere it holds that for little money you get little music. If you don't care what you get, then you can't be helped.
dprapr: you're absolutely right, when a person wants something, they don't ask for the price. Sometimes you experience a really nice surprise and treat.
On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 in the afternoon my friend and I arrived at Planina Laz. At one of the small huts I noticed a man and asked him if he sells beer. The answer was he doesn't sell beer. Then he went into the hut and brought cold beer for my companion and me.
He didn't want to hear about payment.
There are still good people among us and Union beer is still good.
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| dprapr15. 09. 2012 09:14:54 |
Of course there's a difference. Once Zlatorog was better, now Union certainly leads. And such rating comes from Styria!
And it's not just my opinion - I know quite a few who think the same.
Where should I leave my address now so they send me a free crate of beer from Union?
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| Kriška15. 09. 2012 09:17:42 |
When reading this debate, I have to smile a bit sourly - namely, if someone looked at the data on the blue beer can that bears a well-known Austrian name (and which you can buy in Spar for the aforementioned amount - it has the "subtitle" "premium shank bier"), and compared it with Union, Union would probably be much better. If they didn't see the manufacturer's data, they might not notice the difference at all. Tested several times with some acquaintances ...
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| GregorC15. 09. 2012 09:21:04 |
Laško and Union are just not the same (at least not for me). They do differ in taste and personally Laško suits me better. (and I'm a highlander not a Styrian). As for beer from Lidl and Hofer for 50 cents, well: little money, little music.
As for prices: on Ratitovec it's the same as in the valley 2.2€
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| Kriška15. 09. 2012 09:32:16 |
One more tip that might be useful for someone:
If you want to drink the beer that suits you best, you can wrap it at home properly chilled in two layers of newspaper and put it in your backpack. Even after several hours (when e.g. you reach the end of your hike) the beer with such insulation is still nicely cold. Cheers!
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| SunBurned15. 09. 2012 11:23:35 |
Kriška, for this tip you deserve the Nobel.
I always take some beer or radler with me, but after 5 or more hours of "warming up" in the backpack it's no longer the same
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| jax15. 09. 2012 11:45:35 |
Anya
14.9.2012 Beer in backpack, carry to the top, and sell it up there....then you can drink even more in the valley and still make even profit...ask those on top of Triglav - it's worth it
Well, you won't believe it, once my buddy and I actually did it. But the guy from the top didn't like it at all, claims he has some kind of monopoly up there. So it's not that simple to do, unless you bring some weapon along with the beer (maybe an ice axe would suffice) and go into some competitive war. (oh, the last part is a joke, so don't accuse me of anything ... the bit about selling and monopoly is true though)
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| pikica115. 09. 2012 12:27:25 |
Even that one who has like a monopoly for selling on top of Triglav shouldn't be allowed that. Every mountaineer who is able to climb Triglav probably also has enough strength to carry enough liquid with him to quench his thirst on the way and on the top. There are huts nearby too. Doing this trading on top of Triglav is stupid to me. That guy really got on my nerves with that offering of drinks on top.
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| CarpeDiem24715. 09. 2012 12:49:31 |
And has anyone wondered if any tax has been paid on the sales (I didn't get a receipt when I got a beer on top of Očak)?!
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| pikica115. 09. 2012 16:34:11 |
CD you know that doesn't bother me at all, if he doesn't pay those taxes, I even wish him well. The way the state has been treating its citizens in recent years is one big scam. When will these thieves pay taxes?
Triglav is a mountain, commerce doesn't belong there, that's the problem.
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