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| CarpeDiem24714. 05. 2013 21:33:41 |
With this story from Limbarska gora you've really warmed me up and I'll go soon to check with my own eyes and ears how things go there. 
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| VanSims14. 05. 2013 22:22:41 |
@Janezs: It doesn't matter what's desirable and what's not. If it's allowed in huts there's no issue to enforce or allow. But they can charge 1 EUR. Oh, for prices anyway ask before or check the menu so no surprises.
@Karahawk: As for the inn on Limbarska gora you should have seen if it's a hut or not. Usually if owned by PZS it has that red sign at entrance with its name. Then you could do what you did undisturbed, if someone threatens you call the police.
Say Dom na Gospodični, though owned by PZS actually managed by some entrepreneur who has a couple inns in the valley too. Accordingly the atmosphere in that hut, staff behavior, priority to locals over random guests, one waiter for 30 people to save,... interior doesn't remind at all of a mountain hut but really more a catering place.
But! But!!! Legally-formally it's under PZS. That means you can calmly bring in a full backpack of food spread it on the table and eat. Have a copy of the above link that Ruzowski posted and show the waiter if he bothers. Maybe you can even pay that euro right away on condition he issues receipt so in this tough financial situation the state gets something from it too.
From the above link: "The price of this service also includes the use of cutlery, plate and cup"
Does that mean if you pay that EUR you can demand they give you their service to use?
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| Holcar214. 05. 2013 22:42:10 |
so does that mean you can bring your own food and they graciously rent you cutlery?
i always carry my trusty knife, not just for food, mostly though. what doesn't go with the knife goes with fingers straight into the plate.
to have to borrow tin cutlery is already absurd
and is it required that you must borrow cutlery in every case, even if you have your own? that's some kind of violence.
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| VanSims14. 05. 2013 22:50:26 |
No, not like that... but if you already have to pay that EUR which they can completely legally charge you and you have no reason to complain, do you then have the right at least to demand a fork, plate and mug for use? That would interest me (or rather it should interest you).
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| Janezs15. 05. 2013 21:34:23 |
We were with Romana on Limbarska gora 2007, as we hiked E 6 across Slovenia that year. The only strange thing that happened to us there was that suddenly there were five dogs around us and they accompanied us for a while. In that inn we ate and drank our fill and went to Moravče. We also slept at Gospodični and they charged us way over the price for the night. Well if you meant abroad up there, read where I was outside, under the title romana,janez-- regards.
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| VanSims16. 05. 2013 09:05:22 |
@Karahawk: Why are you getting upset now? It's good that you started this topic and now at least you know where you stand. Where you can do it and where not and that they can charge you that euro. I would pay that EUR too if I had to. And I'm known on this portal as the one who even demands a receipt for tea (as someone put it ).
Unless of course you're one of the socially disadvantaged, of which there are unfortunately more every day and who have to watch every EUR.
It's true that the regulation says 'hut' so I don't know if it applies to lodges too. So perhaps you couldn't do that at Gospodična. But then also not e.g. in Aljažev dom in Vrata, Triglavski dom on Kredarica, Dom Valentina Staniča,... But yes in e.g. Koča on Dolič, Koča on Mangart saddle,...
If I were a hut keeper I would smell extra money right away. I would politely approach the guest and say that you have to pay this 'fee'. Even after eating. I would be fair enough not to charge older people who might have trouble sitting outside on something uneven, unless of course the hut is high (at least 2-3 hours from the nearest starting point), because then if he got there he's still pretty spry.  And of course if the weather is bad I would allow eating for free. And some other circumstance...
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| mandela16. 05. 2013 10:18:35 |
If I were a hut keeper I would happily allow everyone to snack from their backpack... I'd even hang a sign on the wall saying "bon appétit" we're humans after all, right?
ps: the hut itself is just a PZS shelter and nothing else... the keeper's profit is solely the goodwill of hikers.
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| wolphgang16. 05. 2013 10:33:50 |
mandela: no hard feelings, but you would only do that if you were already financially provided for and had no other joy than being a hut keeper.
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| dprapr16. 05. 2013 10:51:55 |
I understand eating or drinking something from your backpack if you overnight in the hut. But if you just stop there, surely you'll order at least a drink.
Isn't it a bit strange to come to the hut, sit at the table and eat and drink from your own backpack!? Then you wonder why the keeper doesn't leave you alone. A hundred people, a hundred marvels!
And the nicest is if there's no hut anywhere and you really enjoy without unnecessary extras.
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| TIC TEMNICA16. 05. 2013 11:55:21 |
Dear all, especially the lady who was wronged and subjected to behavior she described as "rudeness without precedent".
I am writing from the Temnica Tourist Information Center, Municipality of Miren-Kostanjevica, as it is in our interest to have a good reputation and promote good work, especially with people.
We regularly monitor customer satisfaction through surveys and on the ground or with those who visit our info center. Believe me, we have not received any complaints or criticism about the hut in question so far. That's why I'm posting, as the behavior of the caretaker described by the lady greatly surprises me. In any case, we ask you to accept our apology on behalf of our organization, which among other things takes care to monitor the atmosphere and feelings of guests, visitors etc. Everyone is valuable and welcome and deserves respectful treatment, of course they must show it themselves too. I'm also posting to assure you that I will talk to the caretaker of the mentioned hut and resolve the matter if it turns out to be as the lady says, of course. I will definitely talk and inform you here about it.
Best regards,
Barbara Jejčič
TIC Temnica, Municipality of Miren-Kostanjevica
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| TIC TEMNICA16. 05. 2013 11:59:16 |
I refer to this post:
"16.4.2013 Lunca Another of my experiences... from the hut on Trstelj. I came to the keeper and wanted to buy a postcard and asked for the stamp. And he gives me the postcard, charges one and a half euros. And I give him one and a half euros and wait for the receipt. The keeper looks at me and says the stamp is outside. When I say I also want a receipt, he turns to the cash register, fiddles for a while, then turns back to me and says he can't give me a receipt for the postcard because he doesn't have it in the cash register, he can only charge me a drink worth one and a half euros. When I asked him how he can sell it at all then, he replied that if I don't want it, I can give it back, that he got them FREE from the tourist center and that's why he can't have them in the cash register! It's not about the one and a half euros, but about the principle itself. Rudeness without parallel. I was thinking whether to post the incident at all, because there will immediately be at least five who will now beat on me that I'm complicating, I'm petty and I don't know what else, but in all this I just wanted to say that people who cheat hikers like that really don't belong anywhere and maybe at least someone in that hut will be more careful..."
Best regards,
Barbara Jejčič
TIC Temnica, Municipality of Miren-Kostanjevica
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| Becar16. 05. 2013 14:04:24 |
Regarding hut openings, until now I relied too much on pzs.si and Gaea+, which has already "screwed me" several times. So now I use direct calls to the huts to the keepers. But regarding this new way of getting info, I'd say one interesting thing that doesn't bother me but is funny  . Wherever I call, the keepers obviously get scared, whether a whole bus is coming and what they'll cook, when we arrive etc . When I say we'll stop by maybe for a tea or two, they sound disappointed by voice: "Only tea?  " Today it almost made me laugh. But what can you do, better to call, because with the above databases it's one big cross.
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| Holcar216. 05. 2013 17:28:11 |
@dprapr, I also said that I prefer to go to the mountains without any infrastructure, except for bivouacs.
@vansims, luckily I'm not socially disadvantaged, but I'll say I don't throw money out the window uselessly. It's proper, yes, to order something, but I don't follow that and it's about the mentality where we don't have many common points. I won't buy things I have in my backpack. You do that, I don't.
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| miri16. 05. 2013 17:38:56 |
@TIC TEMNICA nice gesture by Mrs. Barbara, which we rarely get. Keep it up like that.
Best regards
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| wolphgang16. 05. 2013 17:45:49 |
how do Zmelkoow sing in the song "Poredni gosti"?
...We always bring drinks from the store to the inn...
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| Becar16. 05. 2013 20:03:32 |
Tell me if anyone knows whether Vojak hut already has new keepers, as there was a call for applications not long ago. And how they are doing.
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| Zebdi17. 05. 2013 07:53:41 |
Karahawk, what exactly isn't clear to you? You come to an inn, start eating your own food and then complain about the staff? It's normal to enjoy your own food in PZS stations, BUT it's not normal to do that in private inns. Do you think they'd look at you nicely if you did that in Portorož or Ljubljana? Read Wolfgang's last post again...
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| ljubitelj gora17. 05. 2013 12:33:16 |
When I go to a hut I also order something to eat or drink, but when I have food/drink with me I eat/drink it somewhere outside the hut. Before we used to go to the mountains together and also enter the hut, but I didn't always order, friends did and that counts too, otherwise if you don't plan to drink/order something in the hut then "better not" go inside and I don't know why go inside. It's really nice outside, among the larches, somewhere on a rock/stump eat in peace, such beautiful, wonderful, magnificent as I've seen/experienced I will never forget. I believe you other regular visitors have experienced/lived a lot of beautiful and good things too.
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| TIC TEMNICA18. 05. 2013 11:36:14 |
Dear all,
as promised regarding the incident that happened in Stjenk's hut on Trstelj to the lady registered on this forum as Lunca, I report the following:
I spoke with the caretaker, Mr. Boštjan Božič, who said that everything the lady said is true. He said that postcards are now given away. The caretaker of the mentioned hut Boštjan Božič sincerely apologizes to the lady for the unpleasant incident.
Best regards to all.
Barbara Jejčič
TIC TEMNICA - Municipality of Miren-Kostanjevica
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| tinky18. 05. 2013 12:26:07 |
Today at Kofce 2x chocolate struklji, 2x tea, 12.60 euros without receipt, so what?
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